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Post by Smurfette Principle on Jul 15, 2011 22:52:14 GMT -5
Harry decided not to save anyone, because it was against his rational self interest.
Voldemort won, and rightly so, as his ethical egoism allowed him to value his life above all else. As found on Tumblr.Having only read Anthem, any anti-Randians know if this is a good representation of Objectivism? (alternatively, just post your reactions to the quoted awesomeness)
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Post by Art Vandelay on Jul 15, 2011 23:05:40 GMT -5
I'm not sure Randian philosophy would be compatible with the Harry Potter universe. Apart from Gringotts, the only private enterprise is a few small shops scattered about the place. The other 80% or so of the wizard's economy seems to be made up of the Ministry of Magic and it's various branches (like Hogwarts). Seems very un-libertarian if you ask me.
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Post by HarleyThomas1002 on Jul 15, 2011 23:07:56 GMT -5
Privatize the Ministry of Magic or the schools or whatever.
We'll make it work one way or another!
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Post by ltfred on Jul 15, 2011 23:38:48 GMT -5
I'm not sure Randian philosophy would be compatible with the Harry Potter universe. Apart from Gringotts, the only private enterprise is a few small shops scattered about the place. The other 80% or so of the wizard's economy seems to be made up of the Ministry of Magic and it's various branches (like Hogwarts). Seems very un-libertarian if you ask me. That seems very much like the imaginary world libertarians pretend to inhabit.
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Post by Art Vandelay on Jul 16, 2011 0:15:50 GMT -5
I'm not sure Randian philosophy would be compatible with the Harry Potter universe. Apart from Gringotts, the only private enterprise is a few small shops scattered about the place. The other 80% or so of the wizard's economy seems to be made up of the Ministry of Magic and it's various branches (like Hogwarts). Seems very un-libertarian if you ask me. That seems very much like the imaginary world libertarians pretend to inhabit. Including the extremely backwards financial system (no fiat currency, no central bank, no government mint, etc)?
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Post by Mlle Antéchrist on Jul 16, 2011 0:31:47 GMT -5
Harry decided not to save anyone, because it was against his rational self interest.
Voldemort won, and rightly so, as his ethical egoism allowed him to value his life above all else. As found on Tumblr.Having only read Anthem, any anti-Randians know if this is a good representation of Objectivism? (alternatively, just post your reactions to the quoted awesomeness) Too succinct. That's what the series would boil down to, but it would still manage to be longer than the original Harry Potter books.
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Post by HarleyThomas1002 on Jul 16, 2011 0:35:33 GMT -5
Of course it would. At least one character has to give a lengthy speech about something per book.
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Post by Mlle Antéchrist on Jul 16, 2011 0:37:23 GMT -5
For ten chapters in a row.
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Post by Napoleon the Clown on Jul 16, 2011 0:50:09 GMT -5
Book never would have been written, as Harry's family wouldn't pay for his schooling and he certainly couldn't afford it on his own. And he never earned a scholarship.
If Rand had told the story it would have had Harry and Hogwarts as the villains, and Voldemort would have been the fine, intelligent entrepreneur who would save the London sweatshops factories from Hogwart's reign of terror.
If Harry won, there would be tragedy and everything would fall apart. If Voldie won, it would become a utopia overnight, where the rich business owners would have an army of servants who would be afforded a heel of bread and a cup of water per day and would be grateful for the honor to toil away and die as they were born.
This would, of course, take up even more words than the entirety of the Wheel of Time series. BUT.
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Post by HarleyThomas1002 on Jul 16, 2011 1:00:12 GMT -5
That'd be a damn fine read. Ignoring the author/character filibusters that would take up a large portion of each book.
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Post by Mlle Antéchrist on Jul 16, 2011 1:05:52 GMT -5
Someone has probably already written that story, minus the Randian babbling. After all, this was the series that gave us the "Draco in Leather Pants" trope. Certainly Voldemort has his own pair.
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Post by HarleyThomas1002 on Jul 16, 2011 1:56:29 GMT -5
I believe some digging around fanfiction.net is in order.
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Post by ltfred on Jul 16, 2011 3:24:59 GMT -5
That seems very much like the imaginary world libertarians pretend to inhabit. Including the extremely backwards financial system (no fiat currency, no central bank, no government mint, etc)? I don't know where Rand stood on fiat currency or minting, but the average modern libertarian certainly wants a heavy government-regulated currency through the gold standard, while also having no government regulation in currency.
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Post by matante on Jul 16, 2011 6:57:21 GMT -5
I'm not sure Randian philosophy would be compatible with the Harry Potter universe. Apart from Gringotts, the only private enterprise is a few small shops scattered about the place. The other 80% or so of the wizard's economy seems to be made up of the Ministry of Magic and it's various branches (like Hogwarts). Seems very un-libertarian if you ask me. The Harry Potter universe is only shown through the eyes of children and teenagers, retail and public services are most of what people see of the economy before adulthood. There could be a complex economy behind the scenes, but it doesn't matter to the story since Harry and friends don't get near it.
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Post by Amaranth on Jul 16, 2011 7:05:12 GMT -5
Harry decided not to save anyone, because it was against his rational self interest.
Voldemort won, and rightly so, as his ethical egoism allowed him to value his life above all else. As found on Tumblr.Having only read Anthem, any anti-Randians know if this is a good representation of Objectivism? (alternatively, just post your reactions to the quoted awesomeness) Too succinct. That's what the series would boil down to, but it would still manage to be longer than the original Harry Potter books. The first sentence would be longer than the original Harry Potter books.
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