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Post by lighthorseman on Jul 23, 2011 17:26:38 GMT -5
The problem is that we now have a 3 party system in the USA: The Democrats, the Republicans, and the Tea Party. The Republicans have only managed to sustain their existence as a viable Washington force by entering into a European-style coalition with the Tea Party, and the moderate and/or reasonable Republicans are too terrified of alienating these loud, abrasive, ideological, politics-by-tantrum loonies to openly speak against their suicidal and foolish dogma. The problem is that the Tea Party has gotten it into their head that they are absolutely, utterly right about all matters pertaining to government and finances, and they have been hoodwinked into buying lock-stock-and-barrel into a crazy, steroids-version of Reaganonmics. We all know it doesn't work; it never worked. Wealth does not "trickle down." When wealth is concentrated at the top, it stays at the top. That's why we have an ever-expanding gap between the haves and the have-nots. This shitty economic lie has been marketed to Americans under the guise of religion and "freedom" and "capitalism" and "morality," and sadly many of us have fallen for it, voting against our own demonstrably best interests. These people are so ideologically indoctrinated that they are ready, willing, and possibly able to steer the economy of the USA (and possibly the rest of the world...) right over a cliff rather than compromise their false dogma. They are textbook examples of people who would rather die (and take everyone else with them) rather than compromise on even the slightest point. They are playing chicken with the US economy and they don't care if they crash, because they would rather destroy it than lose. Hell, they would rather destroy than compromise even a little. And if they succeed in bringing it down, in my opinion the arrests need to start. Grand Theft Economy? Intent To Do Global Harm? We will have to spend trillions in medical research to extend the human lifespan to the lengths necessary for these assholes to serve a fair and full prison term. Epic-ly put. Truly. And I may well steal the last sentence in future, if I may? |
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Post by Thejebusfire on Jul 23, 2011 17:58:50 GMT -5
This doesn't have much of anything to do with the topic, I just wanted to say that I love Obama analogy.
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Post by canadian mojo on Jul 23, 2011 20:11:38 GMT -5
This doesn't have much of anything to do with the topic, I just wanted to say that I love Obama analogy. I hope that means he is going to flip congress the bird and invoke the 14th. Don't know if he has the stones to go with the nuclear option though. I'd like to think so but... |
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Post by Napoleon the Clown on Jul 24, 2011 1:06:25 GMT -5
Fuck, they drive us to default I move we try them all for treason.
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Post by tolpuddlemartyr on Jul 24, 2011 1:16:43 GMT -5
^^ You know that if they break your economy and shortly thereafter, the planets, FOX and all the teatards will crow that it was the Democrats that wrecked their economy and betrayed their country?
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Post by Napoleon the Clown on Jul 24, 2011 1:23:25 GMT -5
Well, yeah, but Bush could have murdered someone on live TV and the fucks would blame it on the Democrats.
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Post by Vypernight on Jul 24, 2011 5:49:29 GMT -5
What about the accusations that Obama hasn't brought anything to the table himself? Don't get me wrong, I'm not siding with the extreme right idiots. I'm just curious as to whether he has actually done anything from his side.
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Post by malicious_bloke on Jul 24, 2011 6:19:05 GMT -5
On a lighter note, im wondering how long to give it before I open a US$ savings account. Economic turmoil always provides a more fun playing field when messing about in the currency markets.
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Post by Haseen on Jul 24, 2011 6:56:11 GMT -5
What about the accusations that Obama hasn't brought anything to the table himself? Don't get me wrong, I'm not siding with the extreme right idiots. I'm just curious as to whether he has actually done anything from his side. Yes, a lot of cuts to spending, including medicare and social security. Also, audits for wasteful government spending in general. I believe it's something like $2 of spending cuts for every $1 of revenue increase, so he's more than meeting them in the middle. They were extremely close to making a deal before Boehner pulled the dismantling of health care* out of his ass as a condition, then accused Obama of shifting the goalposts. Which is apparently GOPSpeak for not going along with their own goalpost shifting. *by elimination of the insurance mandate, which would make it economically unfeasible for anyone to provide affordable coverage. |
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Post by SimSim on Jul 24, 2011 9:39:56 GMT -5
The Conservative leadership must be living in some sort of alternate reality. I watched Boehner on Fox News Sunday this morning and it was like he's living in Bizzaroworld or something. He claimed that the president is too busy worrying about re-election and needs to start getting serious about the debt ceiling. He also called a flat tax fair. Meanwhile the Republicans are offering up terrible plans that no president with any sense would accept. Seriously, what president would agree to a flat tax and a Constitutional amendment that would require a balanced budget every year?
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Post by Vene on Jul 24, 2011 10:33:00 GMT -5
What about the accusations that Obama hasn't brought anything to the table himself? Don't get me wrong, I'm not siding with the extreme right idiots. I'm just curious as to whether he has actually done anything from his side. $4 trillion dollars in cuts to Medicare and Social Security, more than what the Republicans wanted. In exchange, he wants a way to increase revenue. |
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Post by Passerby on Jul 24, 2011 10:38:22 GMT -5
The GOP is used to dictating terms, not negotiation. They're adopting Bush's foreign policy with their boss. They refuse to even sit at the table and 'negotiate' until their demands are already agreed to and met. It doesn't help that they're by and large a bunch of hick 'good old boys' that subconciously think "Nonwhite=Foreign=Lesser being" even when it's their Commander-in-Chief and their stupid goddamned hissy fit could literally ruin the country.
Doesn't he have the authority to strip them of office on grounds of subversive activities, gross incompetence, dereliction of duty? ANYTHING?
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Post by Vypernight on Jul 24, 2011 16:21:23 GMT -5
What about the accusations that Obama hasn't brought anything to the table himself? Don't get me wrong, I'm not siding with the extreme right idiots. I'm just curious as to whether he has actually done anything from his side. Yes, a lot of cuts to spending, including medicare and social security. Also, audits for wasteful government spending in general. I believe it's something like $2 of spending cuts for every $1 of revenue increase, so he's more than meeting them in the middle. They were extremely close to making a deal before Boehner pulled the dismantling of health care* out of his ass as a condition, then accused Obama of shifting the goalposts. Which is apparently GOPSpeak for not going along with their own goalpost shifting. *by elimination of the insurance mandate, which would make it economically unfeasible for anyone to provide affordable coverage. Well, last year after the elections, one republican was on the radio saying their only goal for the next 2 years was to make sure Obama does not get elected, because having a black Christian in office is SO much worse than a failing economy. Despite me somewhat conservative encomic views, it makes me want to vote for Obama in 2012 to again spite half the country. |
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Post by Damen on Jul 25, 2011 0:07:28 GMT -5
Yes, a lot of cuts to spending, including medicare and social security. Also, audits for wasteful government spending in general. I believe it's something like $2 of spending cuts for every $1 of revenue increase, so he's more than meeting them in the middle. They were extremely close to making a deal before Boehner pulled the dismantling of health care* out of his ass as a condition, then accused Obama of shifting the goalposts. Which is apparently GOPSpeak for not going along with their own goalpost shifting. *by elimination of the insurance mandate, which would make it economically unfeasible for anyone to provide affordable coverage. Well, last year after the elections, one republican was on the radio saying their only goal for the next 2 years was to make sure Obama does not get elected, because having a black Christian in office is SO much worse than a failing economy. Despite me somewhat conservative encomic views, it makes me want to vote for Obama in 2012 to again spite half the country. That was actually said by Mitch McConnell. Ya know, the douchebag who seems to be the most dead-set on running out the clock on the USA and the economy for his Reichwing ideology. |
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Post by tolpuddlemartyr on Jul 25, 2011 1:47:42 GMT -5
The British Business secretary just labelled the US Teatards in congress "nutters".Wonder how that will be received on the hill? |
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