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Post by booley on Aug 22, 2011 13:21:36 GMT -5
[....Of course, the state now considers the case closed and will expend no effort at all in investigating the case; it will all be at the expense of the men themselves and their families. Which means whom ever did kill those kids will probably get away with it. |
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Post by brandonl337 on Aug 22, 2011 16:17:53 GMT -5
Yup, isn't America grand?
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Post by Shane for Wax on Aug 22, 2011 17:20:10 GMT -5
Oh look, they took the easy way out and wasted the efforts of years of work of people trying to see them fully acquitted. People will forever have the belief that they likely did it because they didn't go the full yard even though it was likely they would be fully acquitted, I mean, fuck, even the Prosecutor against them said they would likely be acquitted based on the new evidence. That's very judgmental of you. They did what they did because Echols was on death row. In Arkansas that means you get poor nutrition, almost no medical care (for example, the only dental care provided is tooth extraction with no follow up or reconstruction), and only basic necessities of life. Echols was in very poor health, still is, and likely will be for life now. The plea they entered was only done once the other two men were made aware of Echol's situation. Under this plea, while they legally plead guilty, they are permitted to maintain their innocence and pursue remuneration. Of course, the state now considers the case closed and will expend no effort at all in investigating the case; it will all be at the expense of the men themselves and their families. The state offered the plea because they just want the whole thing to go away, and under this plea, they can claim victory and wash their hands of it. They don't want a new trial because of the significant risk they will lose, and then have to go through the process of being sued for wrongful imprisonment. Basically this deal boils down to: "Yeah, we know we can't convict you a second time, but we'll let you out right now if you agree not to sue us for locking you up in the first place." The state wants this thing to just vanish before the elections. Hopefully people won't let them make it disappear. Sandman makes some very good points. |
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Post by the sandman on Aug 22, 2011 20:32:59 GMT -5
[....Of course, the state now considers the case closed and will expend no effort at all in investigating the case; it will all be at the expense of the men themselves and their families. Which means whom ever did kill those kids will probably get away with it. Whoever did it already HAS gotten away with it. |
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Post by discoberry on Aug 22, 2011 20:35:32 GMT -5
Which means whom ever did kill those kids will probably get away with it. Whoever did it already HAS gotten away with it. FTW |
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Post by brandonl337 on Aug 23, 2011 11:57:40 GMT -5
True, but if the case had been kept open there could be a cold case investigation, as it is now, legally the case is closed.
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Post by discoberry on Aug 23, 2011 12:50:54 GMT -5
True, but if the case had been kept open there could be a cold case investigation, as it is now, legally the case is closed. First, the guy on death row was probably going to die before he got the needle if he stay in. Second, they spent most of their lives and especially their developmental years inside a prison. And third (or turd if your Irish), the deal still gives them the ability to sue, and maintain innocence. The person who actually did it has a high probability of being in prison now anyways, or might even be dead himself |
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Post by Bezron on Aug 23, 2011 13:09:18 GMT -5
True, but if the case had been kept open there could be a cold case investigation, as it is now, legally the case is closed. Because cases never get re-opened when new evidence comes to light, even if there has been a conviction! Only difference is that now these guys can pay for their own investigations, rather than the police force not investigating because it's been cold for too long. |
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Post by brandonl337 on Aug 23, 2011 13:39:10 GMT -5
True, but if the case had been kept open there could be a cold case investigation, as it is now, legally the case is closed. First, the guy on death row was probably going to die before he got the needle if he stay in. Second, they spent most of their lives and especially their developmental years inside a prison. And third (or turd if your Irish), the deal still gives them the ability to sue, and maintain innocence. The person who actually did it has a high probability of being in prison now anyways, or might even be dead himself Um, yes, I'v already argued those point, I have no problem with them taking the deal I have a problem with the state resolving this issue by essentially saying that the three men are innocent, but they're really guilty, so we know the did it so we won't try to find the guy that actually did it, who totally doesn't exist, but totally does. |
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