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Post by booley on Sept 5, 2011 13:28:00 GMT -5
This guy normally annoys me. But in this I think he succinctly defined one of the problems Liberals have in fighting conservative ideology.
Though he doesnt' call it as such, it's privilege.
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Post by DeadpanDoubter on Sept 5, 2011 13:34:06 GMT -5
...okay, what am I missing here? *looks around*
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Post by Dragon Zachski on Sept 5, 2011 13:43:21 GMT -5
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Post by booley on Sept 5, 2011 13:46:45 GMT -5
...okay, what am I missing here? *looks around* ok fixed. thanks dragon |
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Post by DeadpanDoubter on Sept 5, 2011 13:49:04 GMT -5
Ahh, okay! And yes, The AA/Distressed Watcher annoys me a great deal. *settles in to watch*
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Post by Amaranth on Sept 5, 2011 15:19:17 GMT -5
...okay, what am I missing here? *looks around* Sorry, I stole your sanity. |
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Post by Dragon Zachski on Sept 5, 2011 15:21:03 GMT -5
...okay, what am I missing here? *looks around* Sorry, I stole your sanity. That implies that DeadpanDoubter had sanity to steal in the first place. |
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Post by DeadpanDoubter on Sept 5, 2011 15:29:27 GMT -5
Sorry, I stole your sanity. That implies that DeadpanDoubter had sanity to steal in the first place. ...HEY NOW! |
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Post by Amaranth on Sept 5, 2011 15:39:06 GMT -5
That implies that DeadpanDoubter had sanity to steal in the first place. ...HEY NOW! ...Wait...He has a point. |
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Post by Hyperio on Sept 5, 2011 16:02:55 GMT -5
I agree with TJ in this video - the american Left has to unite (more or less) and fight for their values and interests. Otherwise the USA will keep slowly slipping into the hands of the extreme right...
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Post by Amaranth on Sept 5, 2011 16:21:27 GMT -5
I agree with TJ in this video - the american Left has to unite (more or less) and fight for their values and interests. Otherwise the USA will keep slowly slipping into the hands of the extreme right... No matter how united, it won't make any difference unless marketed. And the Republicans have the marketing machine. The left isn't going to take control and successfully fight unless they're willing to get their hands dirty. The GOP is willing to equate war heroes to Osama Bin Laden. How the fuck will unification really counter that in the voting public? |
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Post by Dragon Zachski on Sept 5, 2011 16:24:49 GMT -5
Blah.
How does one stand for a principle if you have to violate that principle to successfully stand up for it?
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Post by Amaranth on Sept 5, 2011 16:30:13 GMT -5
Blah. How does one stand for a principle if you have to violate that principle to successfully stand up for it? Become a Republican. |
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Post by Dragon Zachski on Sept 5, 2011 16:32:42 GMT -5
Blah. How does one stand for a principle if you have to violate that principle to successfully stand up for it? Become a Republican. That's precisely the problem. It seems like the democrats CAN'T do anything unless they become the very thing that they stand against. |
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Post by Amaranth on Sept 5, 2011 16:43:33 GMT -5
That's precisely the problem. It seems like the democrats CAN'T do anything unless they become the very thing that they stand against. Unfortunately, half of them seem to already have. This is why we couldn't get a workable health bill with a FILLIBUSTER-PROOF MAJORITY.\ Then again, even there, had they marketed single-payer under another name, like "healthcare for all," it might have stood a chance with the people. They didn't need to lie or compromise in this case, just choose a name that wouldn't make people think they were the single payer. Or not get hung up on whether Gore invented the internet, or even whether Kerry was a decent guy. Actually, Kerry's a bad example, because he tried to pander in the worst-looking way. I'm not saying the left can take control, but they seem to bring part of the beating on themselves. Like when "Hope" and "Change" turned into "Compromise" and "Submission." |
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