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Post by The_L on Sept 7, 2011 17:38:43 GMT -5
Oh, please no. I've seen enough of his cult followers' idiocy to last me a lifetime. He's the only person I've seen get any mention anywhere that doesn't involve a universal "fuck you". I don't understand why he seems to be so popular all of a sudden, though I will give him props for sticking to his views, even if most of them are incredibly dangerous. The fact that he thinks a border wall is even remotely feasible was enough to turn me off of him back in '08. Not jumping on THAT bandwagon again, thankyouverymuch. |
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Post by ironbite on Sept 7, 2011 17:47:06 GMT -5
Yeah Obama's ratings are down...mostly because he can't do anything. Let me say that again. He can't do anything. The GOP and the Tea Party won't let him. And because of that, everybody bitches at him. And when he tries to do something, it's spun to make him look weak. So of course approval ratings will be down.
Ironbite-not as far down as the GOP is though.
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Post by Vene on Sept 7, 2011 18:21:15 GMT -5
Yeah Obama's ratings are down...mostly because he can't do anything. Let me say that again. He can't do anything. The GOP and the Tea Party won't let him. And because of that, everybody bitches at him. And when he tries to do something, it's spun to make him look weak. So of course approval ratings will be down. Ironbite-not as far down as the GOP is though. he could have took the advice of the EPA and made ozone standards harsher, that is entirely his decision. But he didn't, because it might possibly, but not really, harm businesses. Letting 12,000 people die every year from something preventable is far better. |
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Post by lighthorseman on Sept 7, 2011 18:22:51 GMT -5
Probably because he's the most pointless President in history who won the nobel prize for "fastest squandering of national and international goodwill ever" |
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Post by lighthorseman on Sept 7, 2011 18:24:11 GMT -5
Yeah Obama's ratings are down...mostly because he can't do anything. Let me say that again. He can't do anything. The GOP and the Tea Party won't let him. And because of that, everybody bitches at him. And when he tries to do something, it's spun to make him look weak. So of course approval ratings will be down. Ironbite-not as far down as the GOP is though. When he first came to power, did the Democrats not have a super-duper majority in the house? i.e. they could have passed any damn thing they wanted? But, you know... didn't? |
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Post by Amaranth on Sept 7, 2011 18:46:52 GMT -5
Yeah Obama's ratings are down...mostly because he can't do anything. Let me say that again. He can't do anything. The GOP and the Tea Party won't let him. And because of that, everybody bitches at him. And when he tries to do something, it's spun to make him look weak. So of course approval ratings will be down. Ironbite-not as far down as the GOP is though. Except when he came in, he had momentum and the Dems had power. And he went limp like Vince McMahon watching a Luchadore match. A lot of the rage is undeserved, but he deserves some of it. |
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Post by Smurfette Principle on Sept 7, 2011 18:49:32 GMT -5
Yeah Obama's ratings are down...mostly because he can't do anything. Let me say that again. He can't do anything. The GOP and the Tea Party won't let him. And because of that, everybody bitches at him. And when he tries to do something, it's spun to make him look weak. So of course approval ratings will be down. Ironbite-not as far down as the GOP is though. When he first came to power, did the Democrats not have a super-duper majority in the house? i.e. they could have passed any damn thing they wanted? But, you know... didn't? That's the Dems' fault, not Obama's. |
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Post by nickiknack on Sept 7, 2011 19:10:02 GMT -5
You know I kind of get the feeling that Obama doesn't give two shits about anything anymore. Everyone is blame really, the Republicans & the teabaggers want to destory the country completely so they can get a jolly from fucking over the poor, funny as hell when you realize a lot of those who are in support of them are living paycheck to paycheck...but thats ok, as long as you can blame everything on the blacks & Mexicans. While Obama & the Democrats sit around trying to be as Republican lite as possible so they can hopefully get the vote of people who'll never vote for them to begin with, because they've been brainwashed into thinking that the Democrats are dirty socialist scum, thanks to 30+ years of bs the right's been feeding them,all while pissing off the Democratic base...
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Post by N. De Plume on Sept 7, 2011 19:18:03 GMT -5
When he first came to power, did the Democrats not have a super-duper majority in the house? i.e. they could have passed any damn thing they wanted? But, you know... didn't? That's the Dems' fault, not Obama's. Exactly. The President isn’t dictator of Congress. Until the democrats as a whole get together and actually stand united, any sort of majority is meaningless. |
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Post by Amaranth on Sept 7, 2011 19:21:44 GMT -5
That's the Dems' fault, not Obama's. Obama folded. He may not control Congress, but he did fold of his own accord. |
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Post by N. De Plume on Sept 7, 2011 20:08:57 GMT -5
That's the Dems' fault, not Obama's. Obama folded. He may not control Congress, but he did fold of his own accord. Thing is, even when you have a strong President, Congress still makes the laws. If the President is not setting the agenda, Congress should be doing so. The Dems were in a clear position to pick up the slack, but they folded just as badly, if not worse. |
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Post by Smurfette Principle on Sept 7, 2011 20:31:54 GMT -5
Obama folded. He may not control Congress, but he did fold of his own accord. Thing is, even when you have a strong President, Congress still makes the laws. If the President is not setting the agenda, Congress should be doing so. The Dems were in a clear position to pick up the slack, but they folded just as badly, if not worse. I say worse, because setting an agenda can only do so much, especially in a party that is famous for their diversity. Unlike the Republicans, who have a set of talking points and can stick to them because their demographic is mostly white men, the Democrats vary wildly in their personal beliefs, and vote accordingly. So they failed to jump on the overwhelming anti-Republican support that was generated during and after Bush, and that's their fault. Obama's failing is that he overestimated the Republicans' willingness to negotiate. He should have realized immediately that their vow to vote against everything he put up was not an empty threat, and used the supermajority to his advantage for as long as possible. He lost his chance to act after the Dems lost their majority in the House, and so now the GOP has him over a barrel. |
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Post by Amaranth on Sept 7, 2011 20:32:19 GMT -5
Thing is, even when you have a strong President, Congress still makes the laws. If the President is not setting the agenda, Congress should be doing so. The Dems were in a clear position to pick up the slack, but they folded just as badly, if not worse. Which doesn't make it "not his fault," it just means Congress screwed the pooch after 'Bama did. |
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Post by worlder on Sept 7, 2011 20:39:03 GMT -5
That makes me wonder what would be last straw for the Democrats and they take on the rage of the Republicans or even beyond that.
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Post by Smurfette Principle on Sept 7, 2011 20:50:41 GMT -5
That makes me wonder what would be last straw for the Democrats and they take on the rage of the Republicans or even beyond that. I don't know if that's possible at this point. It's easier to lead a mob of uneducated, privileged people whose mindset is geared towards groups (church, race, etc.) than it is to move a bunch of people who all have different goals and interests, come from different backgrounds, and have a variety of beliefs. |
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