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Post by Hades on Aug 9, 2009 15:22:07 GMT -5
This is the first time I hear about this, I haven't been keeping up with this whole health care thing. Where the hell do they get this crap? Death pannels? o.o
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Post by SimSim on Aug 9, 2009 15:40:01 GMT -5
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Post by nickiknack on Aug 9, 2009 16:05:15 GMT -5
Grow up Sarah, no one wants to kill your handicapped kid, that you insist on using as a prop.
Guess what Sarah, there are many famlies that don't have the kind of money that you have, that have kids with handicaps, and they depend on state & federal funded agencies that help them.
Oh wait, you don't really care... that is why you insist on cutting funds for these agencies, or refusing money that will go to these agencies, because you are so conserned about wasteful spending.
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Post by SimSim on Aug 9, 2009 16:23:57 GMT -5
I found where they are getting the idea from. Ezekial Emmanuel, who is Rohm Emmanuels brother, and is a health policy advisor at the White House. In 1996, wrote an article about what health services should be basic and what society should provide. In it he mentions that the providing of care to some people wouldn't benefit everybody, specifically elder with dementia and learning disabled children. ABC has an article about it. blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2009/07/when-academic-words-become-political-ammunition-.html |
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Post by gizmoturner on Aug 9, 2009 18:09:00 GMT -5
Her comments are so deeply disturbing. What a hateful, conniving bitch. This drumbeat of crap from the ReThugs is going to cause very bad things to be done by the less hinged of their followers, I fear.
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Post by dantesvirgil on Aug 9, 2009 18:12:15 GMT -5
It's also a twisting of the kind of counseling that the health care initiative supposedly sets out to do for seniors. It's also probably a twisting of the complaint that the gov't might not pay for experimental treatment for people.
The thing is, insurance companies already have panels that decide who gets to live and who gets to die. They make choices all the time about what they'll cover and what they won't. Howard Dean was on the news today saying how Medicare rarely denies payment for a service, but the insurance companies regularly deny payment for services.
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Post by szaleniec on Aug 9, 2009 19:17:41 GMT -5
This is the woman who's always whinging about how the media drag her family into the public eye.
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Post by dasfuchs on Aug 9, 2009 19:22:50 GMT -5
Grow up Sarah, no one wants to kill your handicapped kid, that you insist on using as a prop. Guess what Sarah, there are many famlies that don't have the kind of money that you have, that have kids with handicaps, and they depend on state & federal funded agencies that help them. Oh wait, you don't really care... that is why you insist on cutting funds for these agencies, or refusing money that will go to these agencies, because you are so conserned about wasteful spending. While funding useless public works that cost far more than they should and don't do anything but pool money into a useless hole Honestly, does anyone sane take her as someone to listen to anymore, she's more of a drama queen than Ted Kennedy was a boozer |
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Post by kristine on Aug 9, 2009 22:20:00 GMT -5
Grow up Sarah, no one wants to kill your handicapped kid, that you insist on using as a prop. Guess what Sarah, there are many famlies that don't have the kind of money that you have, that have kids with handicaps, and they depend on state & federal funded agencies that help them. Oh wait, you don't really care... that is why you insist on cutting funds for these agencies, or refusing money that will go to these agencies, because you are so conserned about wasteful spending. While funding useless public works that cost far more than they should and don't do anything but pool money into a useless hole Honestly, does anyone sane take her as someone to listen to anymore, she's more of a drama queen than Ted Kennedy was a boozer the same people you and I would consider unreasonable in the first place.  |
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Post by wmdkitty on Aug 9, 2009 22:23:47 GMT -5
God, I hate Sarah Palin. If she cared about Trig -- WTF kind of name is that, anyway? -- she'd stop using him as a prop.
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Post by schizophonic on Aug 9, 2009 23:30:34 GMT -5
Nobody sane listens to her. The problem is the sheer number of batshit crazy fuckers out there.
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Post by geekysock on Aug 10, 2009 0:59:09 GMT -5
There are no "death panels." There is no "rationing of care." I think politicians, pundits, news anchors, etc should be punched in the face/kicked in the sack every time one of them lies/manipulates shit to mislead the public. We could create a "Sack Panel" where there is a "rationing of justice." Oh, they'd keep lyin' at first...but they'd get mighty tender, mighty quickly. www.factcheck.org/2009/02/doctors-orders/ |
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Post by ironbite on Aug 10, 2009 1:00:16 GMT -5
Its the GOP spreading these lies of course.
Ironbite-mostly cause they've got nothing better to do.
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Post by schizophonic on Aug 10, 2009 1:13:50 GMT -5
There are no "death panels." There is no "rationing of care." At the risk of being repetitive.... One of the worst things about this is that we already have rationed health care. An insurance company will eject you from your policy should you become too expensive for them. About the only thing that keeps the elderly safe in this country is the "socialised medicine" that we have for them. The insurance companies tend to throw old people to the wolves, which can often leave a gap in coverage between middle age and 65. Birth defects can be grounds for rejection under a "previously existing condition." And yet, somehow.... |
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Post by mistermuncher on Aug 10, 2009 5:26:23 GMT -5
I suppose honesty is out of the question.
"Socialised Medicine: At worst, the same shitty service and bizarre decisions you think are OK when you pay direct" isn't much of a slogan. Since when did the choice of who was fucking you over amount to a bigger deal than being fucked over in the first place?
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