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Post by mr blur on Mar 13, 2009 4:39:48 GMT -5
One would think that he represents the things they're supposed to be in favor of - equality, compassion, peace etc.
From this side of The Pond it just looks like more insanity. Perhaps it is?
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Post by Death on Mar 13, 2009 4:54:08 GMT -5
One would think that he represents the things they're supposed to be in favor of - equality, compassion, peace etc. From this side of The Pond it just looks like more insanity. Perhaps it is? Because being anti LGBT and anti abortion is more important than living up to the message of Jesus. |
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Post by Lady Renae on Mar 13, 2009 5:20:17 GMT -5
Thing is, most American fundies are conservative, so there's that to consider. Also, the Republican party is very good at scare tactic advertising, so they have the fundies convinced that he's a Muslim terrorist-sympathizer who wants to take away their rights, kill their children, and turn the country into an Islamic theocracy.
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Post by brendanjd on Mar 13, 2009 5:21:38 GMT -5
Since when has mainstream Christianity had anything to do with the message of Jesus?
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Post by Lady Renae on Mar 13, 2009 5:55:20 GMT -5
It thinks it does, and that's what counts.
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Post by schizophonic on Mar 13, 2009 7:36:47 GMT -5
Thing is, most American fundies are conservative, so there's that to consider. Also, the Republican party is very good at scare tactic advertising, so they have the fundies convinced that he's a Muslim terrorist-sympathizer who wants to take away their rights, kill their children, and turn the country into an Islamic theocracy. That about sums it up. The fundie right seems pretty prone to scare to begin with, and all the Barack Obama ads and the shot of him with headgear on seem to be enough to convince a lot of them that he's a Muslim sympathiser. And that's before getting into the conspiracy theories, like his birth certificate. Yegads! |
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Post by Lady Renae on Mar 13, 2009 8:00:38 GMT -5
Of course they're prone to scare! They follow a religion that says "do what I say or you'll go to Hell"! It's practically carved into their flesh!
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Post by Jebediah on Mar 13, 2009 9:11:56 GMT -5
When I was over at RR I saw a thread about how they love Bush and McCain because they are pro-life and they hate Obama because he is pro-choice. And that was it. They never mentioned any of the other policies the three men had. It was as if the only thing the RR posters could see, or wanted to see, was how Obama felt about abortion, and nothing else mattered.
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Post by Caitshidhe on Mar 13, 2009 9:32:29 GMT -5
When I was over at RR I saw a thread about how they love Bush and McCain because they are pro-life and they hate Obama because he is pro-choice. And that was it. They never mentioned any of the other policies the three men had. It was as if the only thing the RR posters could see, or wanted to see, was how Obama felt about abortion, and nothing else mattered. That's pretty fucking stupid. I mean even for the RR crowd. But it DOES put things into perspective with regards to what these people actually want--economy and foreign policy be damned, SAVE FETUSES!! One thing I have noticed, and this might just be me or where I live (Maryland), is that the political adverts shown during the campaign would mention SPECIFICALLY when the candidate they were advertising was pro-choice, but never specifically indicate when a candidate was anti-choice. It might just have to do with the demographic in my state, and redder states will be more likely to broadcast that "THIS CANDIDATE SUPPORTS OVERTURNING ABORTION AND FORCED BIRTH!" Anybody here from a red state? I think most people here have already hit the nail on the head as to what the fundies are so afraid of and hate so much about Obama: He's not white and perfect, and he has a funny name, and his middle name is Hussein. They're all convinced he's an undercover Muslim terrorist and will sweep in and take over the entire US government. Right-wing fearmongers did a good job spreading misinformation and outright lies during the campaign, though not nearly good enough, obviously. |
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Post by wisechild on Mar 13, 2009 9:35:22 GMT -5
I would think that they would have a deeper loathing of Bill Clinton because he unseated an incumbent that they were content with. In the back of their minds, George W. Bush really wasn't that great. Really, I think part of it has to do with Hillary Clinton. He beat Hillary in the primaries. Hillary Clinton was their electoral failsafe.
No matter how badly The Bush Administration was screwing the nation, they thought that Clinton's candidacy was inevitable. They had good faith that Republican strategists would play this out well. ha! Ha!
It's about abortion, and some of them are wondering if they are just being pandered to, and they don't want to face up to the reality that The Reagan Era is over. Another Clinton Administration would have extended The Reagan Era, in a roundabout way. The Republicans would campaign off the negative energy.
Obama threw a monkey wrench into the political machinery. Much like what that Obama campaign worker got axed for making that parody of the original "Big Brother" Macintosh ad.
They thought that Hillary Clinton would be beatable, and if not, she would make a useful foil.
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Post by m52nickerson on Mar 13, 2009 10:32:16 GMT -5
That's pretty fucking stupid. I mean even for the RR crowd. But it DOES put things into perspective with regards to what these people actually want--economy and foreign policy be damned, SAVE FETUSES!! It is stupid, but a lot of people who vote for the GOP are one issue voters. The GOP believes in outlawing abortions, no marriage for gay couples, a weak separation of church and state ect. So any candidate who is not a republican is evil by default. They will disagree with any of his policies just becasue of this. |
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Post by JonathanE on Mar 13, 2009 10:38:51 GMT -5
That's pretty fucking stupid. I mean even for the RR crowd. But it DOES put things into perspective with regards to what these people actually want--economy and foreign policy be damned, SAVE FETUSES!! It is stupid, but a lot of people who vote for the GOP are one issue voters. The GOP believes in outlawing abortions, no marriage for gay couples, a weak separation of church and state ect. So any candidate who is not a republican is evil by default. They will disagree with any of his policies just becasue of this. QFT Also, for the last 35+ years, this segment has had it drummed into their heads that a vote for anything but a Republican is a vote for the devil by their church leaders. Think about it, a whole generation CONDITIONED to hate. It's no wonder we're a nation divided. The Republicans have fostered this, purposefully. It's actually a bit frightening. It may take another generation to erase this monstrous situation. |
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Post by Death on Mar 13, 2009 10:55:08 GMT -5
It is stupid, but a lot of people who vote for the GOP are one issue voters. The GOP believes in outlawing abortions, no marriage for gay couples, a weak separation of church and state ect. So any candidate who is not a republican is evil by default. They will disagree with any of his policies just becasue of this. QFT Also, for the last 35+ years, this segment has had it drummed into their heads that a vote for anything but a Republican is a vote for the devil by their church leaders. Think about it, a whole generation CONDITIONED to hate. It's no wonder we're a nation divided. The Republicans have fostered this, purposefully. It's actually a bit frightening. It may take another generation to erase this monstrous situation. Religious righties scare the fuck outta me and make me fearful for friends.  And I lived in inner city Detroit for a few years and been caught up in a political riot in Turkey so I don't scare easy. J, I prolly saw your house from my desk, I spent enough time looking out the window staring at Windsor. |
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Post by deliciousdemon on Mar 13, 2009 11:19:43 GMT -5
It thinks it does, and that's what counts. That's a simple way of putting it, but it gets the point across. It's all about meaning, and lucky for RR the Bible is... flexible. |
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Post by ironbite on Mar 13, 2009 11:44:14 GMT -5
NOt that flexible though.
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