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8 years
Oct 7, 2009 20:09:39 GMT -5
Post by tygerarmy on Oct 7, 2009 20:09:39 GMT -5
8 years ago today the US officially went to war in Afghanistan. Now the US and Coalition leaders are debating what to do in the region. With record troop deaths, corruption of the Afghani government and waining public support many are looking just to win votes rather than doing what's best for the troops on the ground and the Afghani people. Hopefully this war won't have many more anniversaries.
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8 years
Oct 7, 2009 20:15:11 GMT -5
Post by wackadoodle on Oct 7, 2009 20:15:11 GMT -5
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8 years
Oct 7, 2009 20:15:57 GMT -5
Post by trike on Oct 7, 2009 20:15:57 GMT -5
I hope so too. It seems like at this point the best thing to do would be to build up the infrastructure of the country, maybe build up some industry to get the people working and then leave the country. People generally turn less toward radicalism when they have steady jobs and the means to better their lives and we would have the satisfaction of knowing that even if we were bogged down there for 8 years we at least left the country in better shape than we found it in...Maybe?
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Post by malicious_bloke on Oct 8, 2009 6:12:01 GMT -5
8 years ago today the US officially went to war in Afghanistan. Now the US and Coalition leaders are debating what to do in the region. With record troop deaths, corruption of the Afghani government and waining public support many are looking just to win votes rather than doing what's best for the troops on the ground and the Afghani people. Hopefully this war won't have many more anniversaries. Record troop deaths compared to what? The latest death toll for american soldiers I could find stood at about 760 (as of september this year)...that's not really a record considering all the huge conflicts of the last century, especially compared to the 60'000 odd who died last time America spent a decade occupying an asian shit-tip no one really cares about
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Post by ltfred on Oct 8, 2009 7:04:53 GMT -5
I hope so too. It seems like at this point the best thing to do would be to build up the infrastructure of the country, maybe build up some industry to get the people working and then leave the country. People generally turn less toward radicalism when they have steady jobs and the means to better their lives and we would have the satisfaction of knowing that even if we were bogged down there for 8 years we at least left the country in better shape than we found it in...Maybe? Wars don't work like that. Industy doesn't get built, money doesn't get to infastructure, the country always ends up worse than you found it. We should just piss off and send in aid instead. Record troop deaths compared to what? I believe he was comparing internal casualties for this conflict. I think that this year is shaping up to be the bloodiest so far.
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Post by Elly on Oct 8, 2009 7:11:07 GMT -5
It's been so long that I've forgotten why the US went to war in Afghanistan in the first place.
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Post by Tiger on Oct 8, 2009 8:51:35 GMT -5
I hope so too. It seems like at this point the best thing to do would be to build up the infrastructure of the country, maybe build up some industry to get the people working and then leave the country. People generally turn less toward radicalism when they have steady jobs and the means to better their lives and we would have the satisfaction of knowing that even if we were bogged down there for 8 years we at least left the country in better shape than we found it in...Maybe? Wars don't work like that. Industy doesn't get built, money doesn't get to infastructure, the country always ends up worse than you found it. We should just piss off and send in aid instead. Aid tends to leave the country worse than you found it too.
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8 years
Oct 8, 2009 11:39:52 GMT -5
Post by trike on Oct 8, 2009 11:39:52 GMT -5
Wars don't work like that. Industy doesn't get built, money doesn't get to infastructure, the country always ends up worse than you found it. We should just piss off and send in aid instead. Aid tends to leave the country worse than you found it too. I guess I should have been more clear in what I meant. I meant that we stop thinking of it as a war and instead of more troops, send in engineers who can build roads, power plants, water pipes, etc. The troops already there could help out/offer protection to the current population.
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8 years
Oct 8, 2009 11:40:37 GMT -5
Post by dasfuchs on Oct 8, 2009 11:40:37 GMT -5
8 years ago today the US officially went to war in Afghanistan. Now the US and Coalition leaders are debating what to do in the region. With record troop deaths, corruption of the Afghani government and waining public support many are looking just to win votes rather than doing what's best for the troops on the ground and the Afghani people. Hopefully this war won't have many more anniversaries. My folks pressured me to join the military and still do to go there or to Iraq to 'kill that madman' or 'find WMDs'...yeah, my folks are rather Fauxed. I simply told them i couldn't join a cause that will involve destroying nations when we're doing it all wrong from the get go. I hope this shit ends, i don't see it ending, but i honestly want it to
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8 years
Oct 8, 2009 11:43:19 GMT -5
Post by Elly on Oct 8, 2009 11:43:19 GMT -5
Doesn't the aided country just tear the reconstructions down after they've been set in place anyway? Something gives me the idea that none of the countries the US tries to help really want the aid in the first place.
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8 years
Oct 8, 2009 11:47:37 GMT -5
Post by Rime on Oct 8, 2009 11:47:37 GMT -5
It's a mess there, and a part of that is the fact that insurgents can infiltrate the country with ease and perpetrate acts of terror.
It was suggested by one guy on the Net that they fix everything in that country, town by town. While I like that idea, the problem with this is no one wants to sink any more money into Afganistan. I'm torn on what to think about that because there are plenty of other countries like several in Africa, who could have used that kind of intervention and done so with so much more success.
If they could have taken a page from the history books, they would realize that those damn pinko commies did the same thing from 1972 to 1989.
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8 years
Oct 8, 2009 12:46:21 GMT -5
Post by rookie on Oct 8, 2009 12:46:21 GMT -5
No, Tiger, he meant Australia gives aid to Afghanistan. Us yanks tend to break whatever we touch.
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8 years
Oct 8, 2009 14:08:23 GMT -5
Post by tiado on Oct 8, 2009 14:08:23 GMT -5
Wow, it's been 8 years. What was the reason for going into those countries again? Still haven't found Bin Laden. When is the 8th anniversary of the Iraq war coming up? That seems to be another one of those clusterfuck wars that have no end in sight.
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8 years
Oct 8, 2009 14:28:51 GMT -5
Post by Thejebusfire on Oct 8, 2009 14:28:51 GMT -5
It's been so long that I've forgotten why the US went to war in Afghanistan in the first place. At the risk of sounding incredibly ignorant, wasn't it for WMD?
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8 years
Oct 8, 2009 14:38:20 GMT -5
Post by Vene on Oct 8, 2009 14:38:20 GMT -5
Initially it was for finding bin Laden, at this point, the reason we're in Afghanistan seems to be we're there this year because we were there last year.
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