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Post by Aqualung on Nov 22, 2009 19:54:33 GMT -5
To the wingnuts it is. SAVE TEH FEETUSES!!!
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Post by Vene on Nov 22, 2009 20:00:02 GMT -5
The last time I checked, abortion was legal. Sure, I want the damn thing to pass, even if it doesn't have abortion coverage. But, this shouldn't even be an issue because it's fucking LEGAL.
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Post by m52nickerson on Nov 22, 2009 20:07:15 GMT -5
The last time I checked, abortion was legal. Sure, I want the damn thing to pass, even if it doesn't have abortion coverage. But, this shouldn't even be an issue because it's fucking LEGAL. Many medical procedures are legal, that does not mean they all have to be covered by insurance. Especially when they are elective. |
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Post by ltfred on Nov 22, 2009 22:48:32 GMT -5
The last time I checked, abortion was legal. Sure, I want the damn thing to pass, even if it doesn't have abortion coverage. But, this shouldn't even be an issue because it's fucking LEGAL. Many medical procedures are legal, that does not mean they all have to be covered by insurance. Especially when they are elective. Last I checked, it wasn't normal for the government to ban private insurers from covering medical procedures that the Supreme Court has ruled are constitutional rights. It's not a matter of some companies choosing not to cover abortion at all. |
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Post by m52nickerson on Nov 22, 2009 22:52:30 GMT -5
Last I checked, it wasn't normal for the government to ban private insurers from covering medical procedures that the Supreme Court has ruled are constitutional rights. It's not a matter of some companies choosing not to cover abortion at all. ....and last time I checked nothing anywhere states that private insurance can't cover abortions. |
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Post by valsa on Nov 23, 2009 7:29:23 GMT -5
A question for those of you who know the legal/government system better than I.
Say the health care bill gets to Obama’s desk to be signed with the anti-abortion amendment in it. Isn’t there a sort of legal document (not sure if this is it) that the president can actually just cross lines he doesn’t like out on, vetoing a part of it without vetoing it all?
Could Obama do that?
Just veto the anti-abortion part without losing all the bill?
I know that if the president veto’s any part of it, it goes back to the other branch to be voted on again (not sure if they vote on the whole thing or just the part the president veto’d) but that shifts the requirement so that a certain majority (2/3rds?) have to vote “yes” to un-veto that part, which I’m not sure the Republicans (and asshole Democrats) have the numbers to do.
ETA- Fuck, nevermind-
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Post by Aqualung on Nov 23, 2009 8:45:49 GMT -5
Yeah, didn't Bush try to get Line Item veto passed while he was president? Thank Ceiling Cat he failed at that at least.
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Post by SimSim on Nov 23, 2009 15:57:25 GMT -5
Which Bush? I know that Regan pushed for it.
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Post by Haseen on Nov 23, 2009 20:50:34 GMT -5
People actually believe that it being long automatically makes it bad. Seriously, watch how many pundits and politicians point out its 2000+ page length as if that somehow makes it terrible. After all, the Twilight series is much better than the Dark Tower series because Twilight is shorter... |
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Post by Trevelyan on Nov 23, 2009 21:18:35 GMT -5
After all, the Twilight series is much better than the Dark Tower series because Twilight is shorter... Even though this was sarcasm, Roland of Deschain will be knocking on your door shortly. |
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Post by stormwarden on Nov 23, 2009 21:31:36 GMT -5
Trevelyan: Seconded. Roland would end Edward and that werewolf, and their clans, before they could even get close.
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