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Post by m52nickerson on Mar 22, 2010 8:19:38 GMT -5
wait a second, does this mean I get to be back on my parent's insurance?! if it does, FUCK YEAH! because the insurance I'm on now doesn't cover my "preexisting conditions." that's the only thing i need you for you twats. The bill says that children can stay on parents insurance until 26. So I think so, but I'm not sure how that will work with people who are not on their parents insurance now. For you I hope it works out, but if it does not there are funds in the bill to help people with pre-existing conditions find and get insurance right away.
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Post by m52nickerson on Mar 22, 2010 8:26:02 GMT -5
While I'm geekishly happy about this passing (assuming that, when all is said and done, we get a public option), I'm really wondering what, if anything, Obama'll be focusing on next. Obviously, the economy is a really big problem, but I don't see very much he can do about that (at least in the way of "initiatives" and what not) right now. Same with the war. It may just be selfish of me, but I'm really hoping that, given the talk about repealing "don't ask, don't tell", the next thing Obama and his people will focus on are the promises they made to the GLBT community. Repealing DADT and DOMA and, hell, trying to get nation-wide civil unions or the equivalent (I can dream big!) might not mean much to most people in this country and would be likely to ignite a(nother) shit-storm, but it seems to me that those (or at least the first two) are far more feasible than figuring out a way to completely fix the economy or end the war in Iraq. Anything anybody else is particularly wanting to see tackled next? I think the economy will be the next big issue, DADT will run in the back ground and may get repealed. We might see some progress on immigration reform and energy. Unfortunately I don't see DOMA getting taken on this year.
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Post by valsa on Mar 22, 2010 8:26:18 GMT -5
Anything anybody else is particularly wanting to see tackled next? Israel, and by extension, the entire region. I'm only passingly familiar with issues in the whole Israel thing, so what exactly would you like to see happen?
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Post by Tiger on Mar 22, 2010 8:30:47 GMT -5
Israel, and by extension, the entire region. I'm only passingly familiar with issues in the whole Israel thing, so what exactly would you like to see happen? Personally, I'd like to see all support for Israel cut off until they stop acting like the genocidal tyrants they portray all their neighbors as. But that's just me. And since that's not going to happen, I'll settle for immigration reform. Streamline the process, make it easier for people to get citizenship, stop treating people as subhuman just because they came out of the womb in another country.
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Post by skyfire on Mar 22, 2010 8:54:28 GMT -5
3. The rate of job loss had slowed, and unemployment is down slightly. Plus every other economic indicator is good. Not locally. Owing to the presence of Ft. Hood, this area has a bubble around it to where whenever we have national recessions the local area is temporarily shielded. Owing to the steady money coming in from soldiers, contractors, and whatnot, there's usually some degree of money coming into the system. However, the bubble finally burst back in late January / early February. In the wake of the holiday spending and the dawning realization of tax time under Obama, what money that people were looking to spend is largely gone. As such, the recession is now hitting us down here. Money's getting tight at the local level, stores are having to have more sales in order to get people in, and hiring is slowing down for those places that don't have an urgent need to bring people in. That's why the company I work for is in trouble now; we're a small business selling what is increasingly coming to be seen as a "luxury" in recession times.
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Post by Aqualung on Mar 22, 2010 9:01:29 GMT -5
wait a second, does this mean I get to be back on my parent's insurance?! if it does, FUCK YEAH! because the insurance I'm on now doesn't cover my "preexisting conditions." that's the only thing i need you for you twats. The bill says that children can stay on parents insurance until 26. So I think so, but I'm not sure how that will work with people who are not on their parents insurance now. For you I hope it works out, but if it does not there are funds in the bill to help people with pre-existing conditions find and get insurance right away. Also, I'm not sure how much of the stuff in the bill takes effect right away, but most of it doesn't go into effect until 2014. Wasn't the pre-existing condition clause one of them? Skyfire, STFU. The city I live in is still in recession as well but we know it'll eventually pick up so quit your whining.
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Post by caseagainstfaith on Mar 22, 2010 9:06:43 GMT -5
3. The rate of job loss had slowed, and unemployment is down slightly. Plus every other economic indicator is good. That's why the company I work for is in trouble now; we're a small business selling what is increasingly coming to be seen as a "luxury" in recession times. So what I get from reading this thread skyfire is your a paper boy.....Newspapers I guess are a luxury...but I just see them as out of date. Since the internet is so popular, why read a newspaper when you can get your news faster online? Newspapers are imo on their last leg and slowly being phased out. Now obviously they won't be totally phased out until those that don't have/can't get internet yet have it..but hopefully with our supreme overlord Google, that too will be one day soon a thing of the past. So in other words your days were numbered from the get go lol! Might be time to find a better career path.
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Post by Aqualung on Mar 22, 2010 9:06:58 GMT -5
Here's what Michael Moore has to say today:
Also, the tax increases that they all keep whining about fail to mention it's on people and businesses that make over $250,000 a year, if I remember right.
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Post by Tiger on Mar 22, 2010 9:09:32 GMT -5
However, the bubble finally burst back in late January / early February. In the wake of the holiday spending and the dawning realization of tax time under Obama, what money that people were looking to spend is largely gone. Bullshit. Unless everyone who's spending money is making $250,000 a year or more (in which case they don't get to complain about financial woes and you don't get to complain about the area being impoverished), then everyone's taxes have gone down and should go down further when the 2011 budget gets approved. Case in point: it was just announced today that the Stimulus has increased tax refunds by $260 on average, or about 10%. Edit: source
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Post by maanantai on Mar 22, 2010 9:12:54 GMT -5
Hey, congratulations to you Americans, maybe one day you'll have universal healthcare too
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Post by caseagainstfaith on Mar 22, 2010 9:15:38 GMT -5
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Post by Mantorok on Mar 22, 2010 9:17:07 GMT -5
So what I get from reading this thread skyfire is your a paper boy.....Newspapers I guess are a luxury...but I just seem them as out of date. You missed the part where the newspaper had to relocate late last year, and skyfire said at the time this was great thing as they could afford to rent more space and possible acquire their own printing press (neither of which are cheap things to do), and now he's trying to claim the cost of the move has crippled the paper and they need to cut costs.
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Post by Amaranth on Mar 22, 2010 9:21:32 GMT -5
lol, and the republican insanity begins... Tragically I'm seeing a bunch of random insane idiots shooting places up soon Too bad the bill doesn't kick in immediately. Their victims would be covered.
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Post by Distind on Mar 22, 2010 9:24:21 GMT -5
However, the bubble finally burst back in late January / early February. In the wake of the holiday spending and the dawning realization of tax time under Obama, what money that people were looking to spend is largely gone. Some times this makes me twitch, I sincerely doubt that many people in your area are seeing any significant difference between their taxes today and last time I went over basic tax law. Take this from someone who lives in one of the top five highest taxed counties in the nation. It's not that bad, in fact I believe I'm getting more money back than I have in the past. Ah, now that makes a bit of sense, luxury items are generally the first to go, but I could have sworn you said you worked at a paper. You've only got so much to complain about when your business model has a largely free, easier to access and more frequently updated competitor. I'd advise looking for something else like a rat on a sinking ship.
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Post by caseagainstfaith on Mar 22, 2010 9:26:16 GMT -5
Ah, now that makes a bit of sense, luxury items are generally the first to go, but I could have sworn you said you worked at a paper. You've only got so much to complain about when your business model has a largely free, easier to access and more frequently updated competitor. I'd advise looking for something else like a rat on a sinking ship. I beat you to the punch Distind
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