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Post by nickiknack on Aug 30, 2010 17:30:18 GMT -5
I don't think the 2 party system is working out either, the Democratic Party are becoming more & more like the Republicans everyday. I would like to see a liberal working-class party come about, because no one really gives 2 shits for the low-income working class folks, and its sad to see some of these people get sucked into supporting the likes of the tea party.
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Post by gyeonghwa on Aug 30, 2010 17:37:21 GMT -5
I don't think the 2 party system is working out either, the Democratic Party are becoming more & more like the Republicans everyday. I would like to see a liberal working-class party come about, because no one really gives 2 shits for the low-income working class folks, and its sad to see some of these people get sucked into supporting the likes of the tea party. The problem with the Democratic Party is that they cower to the Republican Party. If this were a German political scale, The Dems would be solid conservatives. The Democrats are spineless The Republicans are heartless and the Teabaggers are brainless All we need now is for Dorothy to drop in with her dog.
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Post by Vene on Aug 30, 2010 21:08:18 GMT -5
I don't think the 2 party system is working out either, the Democratic Party are becoming more & more like the Republicans everyday. I would like to see a liberal working-class party come about, because no one really gives 2 shits for the low-income working class folks, and its sad to see some of these people get sucked into supporting the likes of the tea party. The working classes are uneducated, which is why they are easily fooled. They don't have the critical thinking skills to see through lies and to compensate for monkey brain biases.
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Post by nickiknack on Aug 30, 2010 23:47:20 GMT -5
Vene, that's very broad brush statement, there are many working class folk who aren't dumbasses, many are smart, take my mom for example, she's doesn't even have a high school degree, but she is far from a teabagger. Actually, she thinks they're bunch of idiots, and hates republican polices. Also, she is annoyed at the whole political system, just like myself, and would like some real change for once.
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Post by Vene on Aug 30, 2010 23:54:25 GMT -5
Vene, that's very broad brush statement, there are many working class folk who aren't dumbasses, many are smart, take my mom for example, she's doesn't even have a high school degree, but she is far from a teabagger. Actually, she thinks they're bunch of idiots, and hates republican polices. Also, she is annoyed at the whole political system, just like myself, and would like some real change for once. That, actually doesn't disprove anything I said. I said "uneducated" not "stupid." Not having a high school degree is uneducated. And of course some people with lower education will see right through it, some highly educated people fall for it. I'm talking about this in generalities and looking at the majority of people in these groups. For example, evolution v. creation by education level:
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Post by MaybeNever on Aug 30, 2010 23:58:22 GMT -5
It's pretty standard for even a parliamentary system to collapse into effectively a two-party system with a little time. Proportional representation helps to prevent this, but only to a point. Nevertheless, I'd like to see the US adopt proportional representation, at least in the House, but since that would require an outright Amendment to the Constitution, I don't exactly anticipate it happening. Colorado tried to tiptoe in that direction around 2004 with a measure that would have apportioned its electoral votes proportionately, but since that would have hurt the state's battleground status (and thus the limited attention it actually gets on the national stage), the move was defeated pretty soundly.
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Post by Vypernight on Sept 3, 2010 17:15:49 GMT -5
I had a rep from Rick Scott of FL call me yesterday, on my cell phone. The phone call went some thing like this;
Her: "We're representing Rick Scott, who is running for Governor of Florida this year. Will you be voting for Rick Scott in November?"
Me: "Does he support HR-25?"
Her: *Click*
I googled the phone number and found out these people are calling quite a few people, even those on, 'No Call' lists. That's yet another way for him to lose voters. Let's just hope the fundies and rednecks (or a large portion in N Florida) of Florida are a smaller group than the rest because the way he's going, they are going to be his only supporters.
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Post by priestling on Sept 4, 2010 0:31:21 GMT -5
wow... calling folks on the Do Not Call registry? can't he be massively fined for that?
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Post by Vypernight on Sept 4, 2010 5:13:39 GMT -5
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Post by cestlefun17 on Sept 4, 2010 19:11:25 GMT -5
The "Do Not Call Registry" law explicitly exempts political calls.
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Post by Vypernight on Sept 5, 2010 17:04:09 GMT -5
The "Do Not Call Registry" law explicitly exempts political calls. He'll probably just claim he didn't know anything about it, and that they don't represent him, just like he does with everything else.
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Post by Whore of Spamylon on Sept 5, 2010 17:37:50 GMT -5
Oh well if things get real bad, time to become an expatriot. Expatriate, expatriot, or both?
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Post by Whore of Spamylon on Sept 5, 2010 17:41:23 GMT -5
If at any point in my life does the US pull of NATO and the UN I'm moving to Germany. EDIT: Sorry I had a typo. See post below to spot it. That's the thing, though. The more human capital flight of rational people leaving an insane society there is, the more insane said society will become. Join me, side-by-side, in the resistance my brother!
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