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Post by Mlle Antéchrist on Jul 3, 2011 13:30:12 GMT -5
Ten bucks says the ink on the constitution was still wet when the first hick starting whining about some law he didn't like "violating state rights".
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Post by Shane for Wax on Jul 3, 2011 13:31:32 GMT -5
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Post by Vene on Jul 3, 2011 13:35:52 GMT -5
The original United States of America was a confederacy and that set up the environment for the south to use the state's rights argument. If the US started as a federalist government, then there wouldn't even be such a discussion, it would be as meaningless as "county rights" or "city rights."
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Post by Shane for Wax on Jul 3, 2011 13:52:22 GMT -5
Speaking of confederacies. The Confederate Spirit is underneath my other laptop. Interesting book, that.
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Post by Alyra on Jul 3, 2011 16:08:37 GMT -5
Think maybe there was a reason the Confederacy only lasted seven years.
edited for typo
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Post by Old Viking on Jul 3, 2011 17:20:53 GMT -5
Y'all are such big teases.
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Post by MaybeNever on Jul 3, 2011 17:27:04 GMT -5
Think maybe there was a reason the Confederacy only lasted seven years. edited for typo It actually only lasted a few days less than four, April 1861 to April 1865.
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Post by Alyra on Jul 3, 2011 17:39:11 GMT -5
No, I meant the Articles of Confederation. And it was 8, not 7. My math sucks. No, he means the 1700s. The Articles of Confederation were ratified in 1781. The US was a Confederacy until the ratification of the Constitution in 1789.
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Post by MaybeNever on Jul 3, 2011 17:44:47 GMT -5
I read a short story once about the modern day America in a world where the Constitution was never successfully drafted in '89 and the Articles of Confederation pretty much collapsed. So every state was technically a sovereign nation, and while the states had expanded westward (to the border of Mexico's holdings, I guess), there were only about a dozen states left because they had gradually been eating each other in wars or unions.
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Post by ironbite on Jul 3, 2011 18:04:53 GMT -5
So...one state got absorbed by all the others?
Ironbite-my money's on Deleware.
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Post by MaybeNever on Jul 3, 2011 18:23:45 GMT -5
I mean a dozen states occupying basically the area of the US, minus the southwest (which would be Mexican). So instead of the 41 continental states that exist in that area, there were 12. Ish.
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Post by dasfuchs on Jul 3, 2011 19:12:08 GMT -5
The AoC was doomed to failure. It was like the EU except with crippling debt and no state wanting to work with another
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Post by ltfred on Jul 3, 2011 22:33:11 GMT -5
The AoC was doomed to failure. It was like the EU except with crippling debt and no state wanting to work with another So exactly the same, then?
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Post by itsaname on Jul 4, 2011 1:19:30 GMT -5
The AoC was doomed to failure. It was like the EU except with crippling debt and no state wanting to work with another So exactly the same, then? I see what you did thar..
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Post by Paradox on Jul 4, 2011 2:15:00 GMT -5
The Occupied Confederacy of Iroquois and Kaintuck want a work with you. I kind of love you, have I mentioned that lately?
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