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Post by DeadpanDoubter on Jul 16, 2011 23:44:58 GMT -5
Yeah, for real...
SPOILERS: Harry turned out to have bi-polar disorder, and not just because of his former status as a horcrux.
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Post by szaleniec on Jul 17, 2011 7:09:45 GMT -5
On a related note, it's weird what you get when you only watch the movies, it seems. I've had several people of the decided belief that Harry and Hermione were meant for each other based on the movies. There was much RAAAAAAEG when he snogged Cho. To be fair, shipping on tenuous evidence isn't exclusive to movieverse fans. Symbolic flight (the idea that Harry and Hermione riding Buckbeak together in Prisoner of Azkaban symbolises their twu wub) was already a thing before the PoA film came out, for example.
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Post by Amaranth on Jul 17, 2011 8:09:08 GMT -5
SPOILERS: Harry turned out to have bi-polar disorder, and not just because of his former status as a horcrux. He also ended up shagging the Sorting Hat in secret. It can do amazing things when you put it on your "head." To be fair, shipping on tenuous evidence isn't exclusive to movieverse fans. Symbolic flight (the idea that Harry and Hermione riding Buckbeak together in Prisoner of Azkaban symbolises their twu wub) was already a thing before the PoA film came out, for example. This is some pretty weak "shipping," then. the other, sipler possibility is that already poorly defined romantic interests were clumsily handled within the movies, and people assumed Harry and Hermione were meant to be largely on their status as main characters, not on any particular rooting or anticipation of the relationship. The fact that Cho seems to come completely out of left field in the movies and his relationship with Ginny is TERRIBLY explored has more to do with the response, least as far as I can see. Plus, there's the mindless praise, which does seem silly for such a precocious little rationalist. Then again, by that last bit of logic, almost every major character wants to ride Harry's "broomstick," given how awesome we are told he is, because the adage "show, don't tell" is completely wasted on screenplays with the subtlety of a nuclear bomb detonated in your face. Only Snape and Malfoy seem to dislike him, and as anyone can tell you, they're playing hard to get. (The preceding was tongue in cheek. Well, mostly. I'll leave it to you, the discerning viewer, to attempt to figure out which parts were not, because an author does not need to bludgeon their audience over the head like they're morons).
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Post by Aqualung on Jul 17, 2011 9:01:20 GMT -5
Speaking of Cho, what in the world was she doing in the last movie? Wasn't she supposed to be gone as she was a year ahead of Harry?
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Post by szaleniec on Jul 17, 2011 9:54:50 GMT -5
Speaking of Cho, what in the world was she doing in the last movie? Wasn't she supposed to be gone as she was a year ahead of Harry? She returned for the final battle, summoned by her DA coin which she'd kept hold of and still worked. This was in the book too.
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Post by Yla on Jul 17, 2011 15:15:04 GMT -5
Up until Harry found out Snape was partially responsible for Lily and James' deaths (and even then, Voldie could've gone after Neville, but I guess he wanted to torture Snape or something IDK) I agree, he didn't really have a good reason to distrust Dumbledore's assessment of the man. Or his, ah, qualities... *winkwink* But Harry found out in Book 5, so he had books 1-4 to figure, "'ey, Snape's not so bad...a bit of a greasy git, but not evil." And, again, you'd think he'd act more like Hermione-- at first distrustful due to Snape's treatment of him as James' son, then realizing that Snape was helping to protect him. While I wouldn't expect him to have quite the same horrorified reaction as Hermione when Snape kill the old man, since he figures Snape killed his mum anyway, what's one more body for the count, I would still expect him to be more bewildered than "HA, SEE, HE'S PURE EVIL". I'm quite sure he actually found out only the afternoon before, when drunk!Trelawney dropped the info. Harry angrily confronts Dumbledore, who distracts him with the trip to the cave. Harry doesn't have a chance to meet Snape between the revelation and the death of Dumbledore.
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Post by DeadpanDoubter on Jul 17, 2011 16:28:44 GMT -5
That's true, didn't consider that...in that case, his reaction does seem justified.
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Post by DarkfireTaimatsu on Jul 17, 2011 19:03:48 GMT -5
I think the most memorable part of the film was when the title screen came up and the whole audience started applauding.
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Post by lighthorseman on Jul 18, 2011 0:29:16 GMT -5
Speaking of Cho, what in the world was she doing in the last movie? Wasn't she supposed to be gone as she was a year ahead of Harry? Not to mention that they never seemed to actually break up in there anywhere... So... OK... just got back from seeing it, and I'm confused... was Snape Harry's father, or what?
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Post by DarkfireTaimatsu on Jul 18, 2011 0:37:21 GMT -5
Speaking of Cho, what in the world was she doing in the last movie? Wasn't she supposed to be gone as she was a year ahead of Harry? Not to mention that they never seemed to actually break up in there anywhere... So... OK... just got back from seeing it, and I'm confused... was Snape Harry's father, or what? No. Harry's father has always been James. Snape just loved Lily, and everything he did to aid Harry was solely out of love for Lily.
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Post by lighthorseman on Jul 18, 2011 0:56:05 GMT -5
Not to mention that they never seemed to actually break up in there anywhere... So... OK... just got back from seeing it, and I'm confused... was Snape Harry's father, or what? No. Harry's father has always been James. Snape just loved Lily, and everything he did to aid Harry was solely out of love for Lily. OK... so whats the deal with their having the same petronus?
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Post by DarkfireTaimatsu on Jul 18, 2011 1:47:27 GMT -5
No. Harry's father has always been James. Snape just loved Lily, and everything he did to aid Harry was solely out of love for Lily. OK... so whats the deal with their having the same petronus? Because he loved her. The patronus is a reflection of the inner personality and who they view as their protector. Harry's is a stag because he idolised his father, whose animagus form was a stag, and Lily's is a doe because of James' stag connection. Tonks' changes to a wolf after she falls for Remus.
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Post by lighthorseman on Jul 18, 2011 1:56:42 GMT -5
OK... so whats the deal with their having the same petronus? Because he loved her. The patronus is a reflection of the inner personality and who they view as their protector. Harry's is a stag because he idolised his father, whose animagus form was a stag, and Lily's is a doe because of James' stag connection. Tonks' changes to a wolf after she falls for Remus. Ah. OK then, makes sense. Thanks for clearing that up for me.
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Post by DeadpanDoubter on Jul 18, 2011 7:14:30 GMT -5
Speaking of Cho, what in the world was she doing in the last movie? Wasn't she supposed to be gone as she was a year ahead of Harry? Not to mention that they never seemed to actually break up in there anywhere... So... OK... just got back from seeing it, and I'm confused... was Snape Harry's father, or what? That...would be fucking hilarious. <insert obvious Darth Vader/Luke reference here>
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Post by Amaranth on Jul 18, 2011 8:04:54 GMT -5
OK... so whats the deal with their having the same petronus? If you mean "Same as James," he doesn't. It's Lily's Patronus, because of his love for her. The doe. Which is like a stag, but sans horns. Or Antlers. Or whatever. I failed everything in biology that didn't have to do with sex.
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