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Post by Shane for Wax on Aug 12, 2011 12:05:51 GMT -5
Also, might I add I got REALLY fucking annoyed with the Andalites throughout the series? Oh good, that wasn't just me! It always read like a really badly thought out Prime Directive to me, even as a kid. I think I started really getting annoyed after that one guy on the transmitter bullied Ax into completely lying and then cut him off at every turn and they didn't even seem like they were in a hurry to get to Earth. I also got pissed at Ax once or twice for lying to the rest of the Animorphs. Though I guess I should blame it on his culture. For fuck's sake, the Andalites are like the Turians. Always looking down on humans.
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Post by Admiral Lithp on Aug 13, 2011 4:53:51 GMT -5
You'd think they'd have learned with the Hork-Bajir, but no.
There was also that one group that tried to whip out the Quantum Virus on Earth.
I always wondered why they couldn't just make one of those that targeted Yeerks & be done with it.
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Post by Art Vandelay on Aug 13, 2011 5:04:44 GMT -5
I always wondered why they couldn't just make one of those that targeted Yeerks & be done with it. I've always wondered why the didn't just make themselves and the Yeerks known to earth. It seemed that half the problem was that nobody but five teenagers knew about the Yeerks and so the police and army couldn't be used to find and destroy the kadrona pools as well as simply holding suspicious-acting people for three days. Seriously, if they'd just done that from the beginning things would've been so much simpler.
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Post by Admiral Lithp on Aug 13, 2011 5:32:17 GMT -5
But that was actually addressed. The pros & cons are weighed a few times in the series, & they eventually do it.
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Post by Art Vandelay on Aug 13, 2011 5:39:40 GMT -5
Even so, it was a little late considering the Yeerks already had a decent foothold on Earth (I'm assuming, still haven't actually read the books yet).
On a similar note, if five teenagers are so damn effective in delaying a global invasion, couldn't the same principle be used to liberate yeerk-held worlds? The Andalites could kidnap a few hundred specimens of whatever the native dominant species is, keep them until the yeerks controlling them die, give them morphing powers and hopefully a few months of guerrilla warfare training and send them back. Rinse and repeat and suddenly life for the yeerks becomes a hell of a lot more difficult.
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Post by Admiral Lithp on Aug 13, 2011 19:51:01 GMT -5
The Andalites basically never used morphing power that way. It was very seldomly used & often for espionage. I guess when you fight most of your wars with advanced space lasers, you kind of forget good ol' jumping out of bushes & mauling people to death. Also, whenever confronted with the superior effectiveness of native guerilla wars, they refused to admit it until it was too late.
What I'm trying to say is that good decisions weren't always made. Firstly because Rule of Drama & secondly because Author Fillibuster.
I recommend starting with the Chronicles. Chronoligically (lol), they're the first & second stories of the war, & they explain a lot of the background.
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Post by shiftyeyes on Aug 14, 2011 21:48:44 GMT -5
I loved that series. Marco was my favorite, followed shortly by Jake. Marco as a favorite was largely because I most identified w/ him. Really snarky and sarcastic, the smart sort who likes planning, a little bit amoral when necessary, prefer laying out all the options with their pros and cons to the leader to choosing the plan. The books were the first series I got really into.
Art- Bear in mind that the Ellimest stacked the deck in favor of the 5 teenage humans. Most invaded planets would not be so lucky.
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Post by Admiral Lithp on Aug 14, 2011 23:08:27 GMT -5
The Ellimist was more like the guy who reset the game after you lost.
Fitting, given his origin story.
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Post by brandonl337 on Aug 18, 2011 1:31:13 GMT -5
yeesh, I haven't though about animorphs in ages, remember really liking it, but i wasn't able to read them, A) in order and B) all of them, so most of the later stuff, involving open war, and the kids being found out i missed, instead, i wound up reading the last one with very little knowledge of the most recently proceeding books. was confused and angry, and confused, and sad, and confused.
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Post by Admiral Lithp on Aug 18, 2011 17:58:43 GMT -5
Same.
I was super amused that the solution to the whole thing was so simple.
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