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No minors in Mosque Aug 8, 2011 22:20:31 GMT -5

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Tajikistan Mosque Ban Seeks To Curb Islam's Influence

DUSHANBE, Tajikistan — Tajikistan's authoritarian leader has approved a law barring minors from praying in mosques as his secular government seeks to minimize the rising influence of Islam in the Central Asian nation.

President Emomali Rakhmon signed the bill Wednesday despite vocal resistance from rights activists and the opposition Islamic Revival Party.

The law also requires people under the age of 18 to study in secular schools thus barring thousands of students from attending mosque schools seen by authorities as a breeding ground of Islamism.

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TWoozl Full Member Posts: 203	No minors in Mosque Aug 8, 2011 22:36:53 GMT -5 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by TWoozl on Aug 8, 2011 22:36:53 GMT -5 Good, but bad, but good. On the one hand, freedom of choice, on the other, freedom from forcible indoctrination. I have mixed feelings about it.
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No minors in Mosque Aug 8, 2011 23:49:49 GMT -5

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Post by largeham on Aug 8, 2011 23:49:49 GMT -5

I agree with TWoozl. Good to stop indoctrination but kinda bad as it stops freedom of religion. But considering that this was instituted by an authoritarian regime, maybe it's more to control the populace than to stop fundamentalism.

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TWoozl Full Member Posts: 203	No minors in Mosque Aug 9, 2011 0:17:02 GMT -5 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by TWoozl on Aug 9, 2011 0:17:02 GMT -5 Fundamentalism is just another variety of totalitarianism, largeham. Dictators hate competition.
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No minors in Mosque Aug 9, 2011 0:18:09 GMT -5

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Post by Art Vandelay on Aug 9, 2011 0:18:09 GMT -5

I do love it when religion is curtailed, but they're kind of going about it wrong if you ask me. Best to tax them, tax them some more, make it nigh-on impossible to receive building permission for religious building and finally, tax every last cent they make.

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No minors in Mosque Aug 9, 2011 0:29:35 GMT -5

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Aug 8, 2011 23:49:49 GMT -5 largeham said:

I agree with TWoozl. Good to stop indoctrination but kinda bad as it stops freedom of religion. But considering that this was instituted by an authoritarian regime, maybe it's more to control the populace than to stop fundamentalism.

This is possible.

...If anything, I would set the limit at 13 years old, so that way the kid is old enough to choose for himself... even if that choice ends up being influenced by his parents.

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Admiral Lithp God Winner of the 09/'09 Epic Nailed It! Award Veni veni venias, neme more facias, Snailiroth! Posts: 9,240	No minors in Mosque Aug 9, 2011 1:03:16 GMT -5 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Admiral Lithp on Aug 9, 2011 1:03:16 GMT -5 I like 16 better.
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Dragon Zachski God I'm a duck :V Quack! Posts: 7,035	No minors in Mosque Aug 9, 2011 1:11:12 GMT -5 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Dragon Zachski on Aug 9, 2011 1:11:12 GMT -5 Aug 9, 2011 1:03:16 GMT -5 Admiral Lithp said: I like 16 better. 14
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No minors in Mosque Aug 9, 2011 1:32:57 GMT -5

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Post by Admiral Lithp on Aug 9, 2011 1:32:57 GMT -5

15 is the lowest I'd go.

My reasoning is that saying you have to wait until you're an adult to choose your beliefs is just asinine, but make it too young & your parents will have too much influence over it. Even in the early teens, you're still much closer to being a kid.

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No minors in Mosque Aug 9, 2011 1:43:20 GMT -5

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Aug 9, 2011 1:32:57 GMT -5 Admiral Lithp said:

15 is the lowest I'd go.

My reasoning is that saying you have to wait until you're an adult to choose your beliefs is just asinine, but make it too young & your parents will have too much influence over it. Even in the early teens, you're still much closer to being a kid.

We can settle on 15. You do have a point, after all.

Of course, this is all theoretical mumbo-jumbo, so neither of us win anything.

If you see me typing in "quotes", that's because I'm remembering what it was like to be a fundie and then typing as if I was one :3
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Admiral Lithp God Winner of the 09/'09 Epic Nailed It! Award Veni veni venias, neme more facias, Snailiroth! Posts: 9,240	No minors in Mosque Aug 9, 2011 2:13:38 GMT -5 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Admiral Lithp on Aug 9, 2011 2:13:38 GMT -5 Fuck that, I want to win a pony.
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Art Vandelay God The Asexual Grand Admiral [Insert mildly amusing phrase here] Posts: 7,649	No minors in Mosque Aug 9, 2011 2:17:03 GMT -5 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Art Vandelay on Aug 9, 2011 2:17:03 GMT -5 You don't deserve a pony.
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Admiral Lithp God Winner of the 09/'09 Epic Nailed It! Award Veni veni venias, neme more facias, Snailiroth! Posts: 9,240	No minors in Mosque Aug 9, 2011 2:27:27 GMT -5 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Admiral Lithp on Aug 9, 2011 2:27:27 GMT -5 I saved the world from the evil Xa'pafofo. I deserve a fucking pony.
	"I'll have to keep an eye out for male genitals next time I'm looking at statues of naked women."~MaybeNever "[Lithp] has an avatar that looks like a seedy goth opening the door to a pair of Jehovah's Witnesses after a hard nights drinking."~tolpuddlemartyr "Obama bows before the muslim world and fundies go apeshit. Bush goes on a date with it and they have no problem."~Tgrwlf

Art Vandelay God The Asexual Grand Admiral [Insert mildly amusing phrase here] Posts: 7,649	No minors in Mosque Aug 9, 2011 2:40:55 GMT -5 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Art Vandelay on Aug 9, 2011 2:40:55 GMT -5 No Lithp, bad! Ponies are not for fucking.
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