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Post by lonelocust on Nov 1, 2009 1:19:05 GMT -5
lonelocust nothing you have linked is a lie. So how do you prove i'm a liar. What. Are. You. On? "[my wife] is not involved nor was when we were together in the ministry" "My wife had no interest in the ministry. She did go on some trips with me however did not participate." "REALLY. she stayed out of things. I did deliverance with her but that was it." as opposed to... "i was told by my wife's altar that the battle [with leviathan] was successful and he had received many injuries." "The incident was with one of my ex's altar personalities which can see into this world i can't." You said that your wife totally stayed out of things, didn't know anything about your ministry, and was never involved in it and had no interest with it, then you revealed that she was the one and only source of information regarding the battle with leviathan. THESE THINGS ARE DIRECTLY CONTRADICTORY. You have lied.
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Post by lonelocust on Oct 31, 2009 18:32:40 GMT -5
He well may not be "a liar" as in a habitual liar, or one whose actions are so often lies that it defines him, but he has disproven that he would "never lie about anything". (Yeah yeah, I know yinz are just poking.)
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Post by lonelocust on Oct 31, 2009 13:14:30 GMT -5
Bezron i would never lie about anything. I am held to a higher standard than the charlatains valsa i dealt with one a week ago that was in a room of a system and the lady was 28. The protector part said this was an old man. I called him up and he came up very briefly. Refused to talk other than say leave me alone. I had the protector take him a glass of water of life and then the demon began screaming like hell and then dissipated. This is without me telling her what would happen she explained to me what happens to all demons that drink of it or get this water thrown on them. valsa yes i did call it the water of life. however in the same woman she gave this drink to some of the altars and they started healing from the pain inside. This same water without me saying anything to her immediately healed a part and he integrated. Had i known actually this is the one she was taking to the fountain i would have stopped it till i said goodbye he was one of my favorites. i remember one time after talking for a few and getting things out out lunged across the room and began a tickle attack that he would just not give up. he was three and it was so cute. But anyways he got healed by the same water no yelling like hell or nothing. and also in the same woman the protecgtor parts scars were all healed she didn't go anywhere so there were three different outcomes the same three different ones in many others. valsa the lady about the tickle attack WAS my wife. Her part that was the tickler was a three year old named jacob. However she is not involved nor was when we were together in the ministry therefore did not know about the water of life and what it does. i had just begun the work of casting out demons after a bunch of parts had merged i would say about 20 or so so far ( i still do minister to her but we are no longer together.) wow hold on here. i guess i worded it wrong. my wife and i were together 17 years got married 1-11-00. This session in question was i would say maybe six months or so. My wife had no interest in the ministry. She did go on some trips with me however did not participate. She could have heard a bunch of things however the water of life i know for a fact she had no knowledge of. The water of life incident was only a few weeks ago the tickle attack was 6 months ago. As far as the amount of things my wife knows it is very limited. REALLY. she stayed out of things. I did deliverance with her but that was it. I think she was present for maybe two or three of other peoples. davedan even without the weight of a real sword in my hands stabbing with a spiritual sword is the same as wielding a real one. The action of the stabbing for such a long period of time was exhausting. i knew where to stab by the directions given me by the altar yes. Also prior to this fight there were a couple before hand. I was exhausted but in the end i was told by my wife's altar that the battle was successful and he had received many injuries. Leviathan was not dead if that is what you are searching for but wounded. Which of course he has most likely recovered from. it was not about the win but the fight for me. However there is one detail that has been left out and that is as it was finished and leviathan left the water had rippled with no one touching it. That was more than enough confirmation for me after a long hard fight that something did happen. as far as the original post about leviathon? There are many who can see into the spiritual world usually altars of a person can see the best. Also thoughs who dabble with the occult can too. The incident was with one of my ex's altar personalities which can see into this world i can't. The angels were gabriel and michael and as the bible says i tested them the way i knew how to at the time and they were able to give me information to questions she had no idea the answer to because she was not there for it. However at that time i did not know the test of having them say Jesus Christ is come in the flesh so that test wasn't given. as far as demon names a lot of times demons take on names of feelings because they opporate in that feeling and amplify it. however i have also been led to force them to speak the name given them by God because it was an angel of light or a fallen angel i was dealing with. If you look back in the bible in Genesis it talks about the sons of God being with the daughters of men, i believe as well as others that this is where the demons came from. This practice is still probably going on so they get new forces all the time. There names of which would not be regular names like the fallen angels they would be names given to them by Lucifer as to bring fear on others. And of course the post that started it all... End of story: you are a liar.
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Post by lonelocust on Oct 27, 2009 19:45:22 GMT -5
Oh oh! I had a dream last night to amaze and delight you, Nautical. It had some of my shifty-rooms, and had strangers in it, and I even got some of their names, oh and it was all meta because I was telling people in my dreams about my dream rooms. (This has happened before, though I don't have any specific instances written down. I fell off of keeping up my dream diary a while back.
I was a student or a teacher at a school that looked like Hogwarts in the Harry Potter movies (since I bet you haven't seen them because they're all demonic and shit, it's a big old castle), and I had a student/classmate who looked like the guy that played young Voldemort in said movies. It wasn't actually a magic school; it just looked like one. I was putting this guy's phone number into my phone, and put his name down as Tom C. Later we went to have dinner with some people I know (I don't know them in real life; they were just imaginary dream people), who lived in a brick house with zeriscaping in the yard. Inside it was very standard Southwest style décor. My friends were an older couple, and one of them took me outside to show me how they'd put the whole house on this system with a little remote control that let the house move around part of the yard on rails. I texted TomC the address, and he showed up with my boyfriend (my actual boyfriend from real life), and then we went out and had some dinner which was very southern grandma type fair, and we sat on the floor around the coffee table to eat. Then I was telling people about my dreams with the rooms, and the hosts were like "Oh yeah, our house is like that! See that little closet nook over there?" And I went and checked it out, and if you stepped inside it you saw it actually was a hallway and you could walk to a whole other part of the house that was as big as the part we saw.
Later we all left, and I went back to the school place, and helped Tom with some math homework.
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Post by lonelocust on Oct 27, 2009 19:00:31 GMT -5
Yeah, I voted against most of the comments from this thread. I think I voted for 2. And I submitted one, though it was a while back - Nautical's take on the big bang, which is the most hilarious misunderstanding since "if bang is true, then God is the collission of two asteroids!"
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Post by lonelocust on Oct 26, 2009 15:51:29 GMT -5
ok lets cover the three incidents as pertaining to the generational curses i was inquired about. in scenario 1) when the father sins it is passed down generation-ally to the descendants up to the third or the fourth generation. in scenario 2) it states that this will not happen when the child of the sinner does the right things in Gods eyes. ie... if daddy was a murderer and son was a devout follower of God the curse would stop and not proceed. So why, then, when WMD was a devout follower of god did he not heal her various ailments which you said must be the result of a generational curse? This is the context in which this came up. You asked WHY she wanted to be healed, which really should be obvious to anyone, and continued to blame it on a generational curse. She was a devout Christian and believed God would heal her. Why would the alleged generational curse then continue? This is in direct contradiction to what you said should happen - that the curse would stop.
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Post by lonelocust on Oct 26, 2009 15:47:30 GMT -5
lonelocust it is quite alright let me know when you want to try it again. hopefully you won't get sick again. As far as the amount of things my wife knows it is very limited. REALLY. she stayed out of things. I did deliverance with her but that was it. I think she was present for maybe two or three of other peoples. She didn't know about the water of life and to add to that fascinating incident. It was maybe two weeks ago and i was having a session with the ex and one of the parts told me that she had a surprise for me. Later on that day we met at the park to talk and litttle Stacy said she was going to get my surprise. I said ok and in about ten seconds to my huge surprise Jacob the part that had disappeard had returned with an accounting for his time. He stated that he had left with Jesus that day and that Jesus had healed him. He was in such a good mood that it was joyful to hear the laughter coming from him. Of course before he had laughed and all but now you can tell there was a peace about him that was new. I am up for trying again. Sickness happens. I'm actually still having a little lingering sore throat and feel a bit tired when exercising, but am 80% better. I'm sorry, but the claim that your wife never took interest in your ministry and knew almost nothing about it is directly contradictory to the statement that you "did deliverance" with her and that she was the exclusive source of data on your leviathan fight. These things do not go together.
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Post by lonelocust on Oct 26, 2009 15:33:27 GMT -5
They will use it for ammo because they like to say that gay marriage will lead to polygamy (probably true) and acceptance of pedophilia (totally a red herring because it does not relate to consenting adults who are able to enter into legal contracts doing so).
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Post by lonelocust on Oct 26, 2009 15:31:12 GMT -5
I don't understand why hate crime laws can't simply be rewritten as, "If it is legal for someone to be x, it is a hate crime to attack that person on the basis of them being x". There's a terrifying number of places where sodomy is illegal. No go. Lawrence vs. Texas established that anti-sodomy laws are unconstitutional. However, if they're still on the books in places and merely have not been prosecuted since Lawrence, that could cause fucknuttery. However, patches' suggestion is really a fine summary of what the legislation establishes. There is just a list of such Xs that we have known to be crime motivators, and for the reasons Vene and I expounded upon. Also recall hate crimes are based on race (not "black" or "hispanic"), sexual orientation (not "gay"), etc. IF a white heterosexual is attacked clearly for being a white heterosexual, it is a hate crime.
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Post by lonelocust on Oct 26, 2009 3:18:57 GMT -5
A lot of times modeling contracts have a clause that the model cannot gain or lose 5 lbs from where they were when they signed on. While they sometimes do and are kept on, it's also often used as a technical out in order to fire them for something else. They may well have models that way 10-15 lbs more at the same height (140ish for her height will likely keep her in a size 0-2) but if she was 115 when she signed on and 120 now they can drop her.
I don't know that that's the case. It might actually be all sorts of fuckery that they think 120 and 5'10" is actually overweight, but looking for a technicality is also quite a possibility.
Edit: Oh, I missed the "can't fit into the clothes" thing, which makes my benefit-of-the-doubt trying to fire her on a technicality thing probably out of the realm of possibility. OK, even aside from giving her a fucking size 4 instead of a 2... my girlfriend is 5' even (or so she claims; I think she's more like 4'11" but she runs from the tapemeasure when I try to prove it) and about 110ish, and she sometimes is too small for size 0s, and occasionally buys clothes from the children's section (girls size 9ish). So she's 1.8 lbs/inch or .33 kg/cm at a <0. 5'10" and 120 is 1.8 lbs/inch or .3 kg/cm... WHAT size can't that fit into, being smaller than about a girl's size 9?
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Post by lonelocust on Oct 26, 2009 2:25:10 GMT -5
Are veterans covered now too? I remember seeing that somewhere. If they are, that's a massive travesty. Former soldiers are among the most lauded and least persecuted groups in society. Last I heard, it did not get added, because veterans are not a group at risk or with a history of being on the receiving end of bias crimes. The attempt to add veterans was either a gross misunderstanding of the point and a belief that it was a bill to produce "protected classes" or, as I'm more prone to believe, a simple attempt to make those trying to pass hate crimes legislation look bad by claiming that they hate veterans because they won't include them in the (non-existent) protected classes.
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Post by lonelocust on Oct 26, 2009 1:18:54 GMT -5
People have also seriously used "gay panic" as a defense in murder trials. "I thought he was gay and would hit on me, and I just PANICKED AND KILLED HIM and couldn't help it!" I thought Googling for sources might be hard, but there's actually a wikipedia article on the matter. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gay_panic_defenseHate crimes bills prevent this, by saying yes, it's still a crime even if you feel so threatened by the gays (or other often-targeted minorities) that you just have to flip out and kill them. The other reason for hate crimes bills is that hate crimes are at heart a crime against an entire group of people, and are intended to intimidate and harrass an entire group and not just the immediate victim. Hate crimes are NOT any crime that happens to be perpetrated against a certain class. If a gay half black half hispanic is assaulted during a robbery, it is not a hate crime. When the clear additional crime of group harrassment/intimidation is the motivation, it is a hate crime. But to me preventing the gay/trans/black panick defense, which has actually been used successfully, is the biggest motivating factor for being in favor.
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Post by lonelocust on Oct 26, 2009 1:11:18 GMT -5
I've actually been waiting for this to come up in the US. While I think it will be quite a while before polygamy becomes legally recognized, right now there's only a few US states where polygamy is a criminal offense, and there haven't been any prosecutions for quite a while. I believe that prosecuting adults for practicing polygamy without trying to claim it legally (that is, having wedding ceremonies and calling themselves "married") would be unconstitutional, a violation of freedom of expression and/or freedom of religion. Just as in a state without legal recognition of same sex marriages, you can still have a wedding and call your spouse "husband" or "wife" if that's what you want to do, you should be able to do so with multiple spouses.
It looks like the BC deal is about this - prosecuting polygamy as a crime, not legally recognizing multiple marriages. Though the "especially those involving minors" seems like they're just trawling for moral outrage. If there are laws about sex with minors, then there are laws about sex with minors.
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Post by lonelocust on Oct 25, 2009 23:30:47 GMT -5
Oh yeah, I was just being nitpicky. Also I don't believe for an instant that ZDenny knows anything about that. You just did actually say "all" in the post.
You gotta love other people telling atheists what atheism is all about. I mean, me personally, I'm all about nature, and am also a member of a religion with no god requirement. It's not what "atheists" are up to. *eyerolls*
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Post by lonelocust on Oct 25, 2009 14:06:40 GMT -5
How could his wife NOT know he was an exorcist, especially with the people at his local church who put him up on a pedestal? And all of these demons he's supposedly expelled? It's strange she didn't know ANYTHING about it. Is his church a Stonecutter's club? The claim was ridiculous in and of itself, which we pointed out at the time. (That is, after 17 years together, she would know something about it whether or not she "took any interest".) However, he directly contradicted himself with the two claims, which I hadn't noticed.
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