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Post by Admiral Lithp on Oct 12, 2011 14:39:06 GMT -5
Because it's not about what is being done, it's about how it's being done. For example, fascist states are fond of staging mock elections. Doesn't make them a democracy. Or boosting police powers of surveilance under claims it is necessary for "public safety". Oh, yes, because EVERY single alteration to the law that would fit under that description is automatically unreasonable. |
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Post by Art Vandelay on Oct 12, 2011 14:43:49 GMT -5
Actually I have been stopped and searched for drugs (not necessarily without probable cause though) and it really wasn't that bad. I cooperated, I was found to in fact not be a drug dealer and was allowed to continue on my merry way. All in all, not so bad. In any case, the stuff you describe is not due to the technology itself, but how it's used. Blame bullshit like the Patriot Bill for excessive and largely pointless security measures. Blaming the tech is like blaming a the weapon of choice of a murderer for the murder in question. I'm not blaming the tech. I AM blaming the way it is, and will be, used. Yet your argument seems to be "we should ban this technology". It seems to me like you are. |
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Post by lighthorseman on Oct 12, 2011 14:44:27 GMT -5
Or boosting police powers of surveilance under claims it is necessary for "public safety". Oh, yes, because EVERY single alteration to the law that would fit under that description is automatically unreasonable. Well... all the examples I can think of are. |
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Post by lighthorseman on Oct 12, 2011 14:45:24 GMT -5
I'm not blaming the tech. I AM blaming the way it is, and will be, used. Yet your argument seems to be "we should ban this technology". It seems to me like you are. Not at all. Its the "FBI to deploy" part i have a problem with, not the "facial recognition" software bit. |
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Post by Admiral Lithp on Oct 12, 2011 14:47:15 GMT -5
That's dumb. You're dumb. Hell, increasing the number of patrolling cops increases their powers of surveilence.
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Post by Art Vandelay on Oct 12, 2011 14:49:01 GMT -5
Yet your argument seems to be "we should ban this technology". It seems to me like you are. Not at all. Its the "FBI to deploy" part i have a problem with, not the "facial recognition" software bit. ...So is it the fact that it's being deployed (I.E. used) you have a problem with, or that it's the FBI doing it? |
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Post by Dragon Zachski on Oct 12, 2011 16:08:19 GMT -5
Careful, LHM. You're starting to sound like AboveAthletics.
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Post by aboveathletics on Oct 12, 2011 16:23:07 GMT -5
Careful, LHM. You're starting to sound like AboveAthletics. I check out this forum on a whim after MONTHS of absence and this is the most recent post! How ironic. |
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Post by priestling on Oct 12, 2011 16:28:17 GMT -5
Oh. You're back. Good thing I just restocked my booze supply.
I've got $20 in the pool.
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Post by aboveathletics on Oct 12, 2011 16:29:34 GMT -5
I also kind of assumed you guys were at least partly trolling me with all the support for extreme authoritarianism. Apparently I was wrong, it's still alive and well in my absence. This is... kind of sad. You call yourself atheists and antitheists but you're all for an omniscient power running every aspect of your lives.
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Post by priestling on Oct 12, 2011 16:31:51 GMT -5
*takes a shot*
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Post by aboveathletics on Oct 12, 2011 16:33:07 GMT -5
I also kind of assumed you guys were at least partly trolling me with all the support for extreme authoritarianism. Apparently I was wrong, it's still alive and well in my absence. This is... kind of sad. You call yourself atheists and antitheists but you're all for an omniscient power running every aspect of your lives.
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Post by lighthorseman on Oct 12, 2011 16:35:33 GMT -5
I still don't like it.
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Post by Admiral Lithp on Oct 12, 2011 16:36:42 GMT -5
1. That's ironic, that's just coincidental.
2. That's not what anyone is supporting. It's facial recognition software. Jesus, people. Fucking tasers are more controvertial.
3. The government is God now?
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Post by Her3tiK on Oct 12, 2011 16:37:36 GMT -5
I'm not much for drinking, and I'll join you. *shot* |
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