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Post by Yaezakura on Oct 13, 2011 1:46:40 GMT -5
I will laugh when you find yourself on the wrong side of an officious police officer misusing his powers. And I'll laugh the day an honest cop saves your life. Because seriously, dude. Yes, there are cops who misuse their power. They account for a tiny, tiny fraction of all cops. You hear about them all the time because no one bothers writing news stories about all the cops who just do their jobs the way they're supposed to. You're no better than the moms who think a child molester is hiding behind every corner wanking it to their children because she hears stories about a handful of cases of it, each thousands of miles apart, and can't do the math that the chances of anything happening to her own kids are exceptionally tiny. Grow a fucking sense of perspective about the world before you make yourself sound even stupider. Though at this rate, that would be quite an accomplishment by itself. |
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Post by sylvana on Oct 13, 2011 1:56:31 GMT -5
I will laugh when you find yourself on the wrong side of an officious police officer misusing his powers. You know that this kind of technology can only be used for spot checks, they wont be spying on your house and watching you do dirty things to your cat. They cant unless they break into your house and set up secret surveillance, but if they do that, you have far bigger problems than facial recognition software. This kind of technology, basically all it is capable of, is allowing a police officer to take a picture of your face, or get a picture of your face, and cross reference it with their database of mug shots. If a match is found they can get your personal information, (like name, ID and place of residence) far more easily than relying on any kind of physical ID. Facial recognition software does not work from CCTV. CCTVs have far too low a resolution and are normally placed at angles that make seeing the face clearly next to impossible for humans, let alone computers. There is a reason why CCTV is hardly used as conclusive evidence that someone specific was at the scene of a crime. Can this be abused? Possibly, but it is really easier for a police officer to just arrest you and detain/harass you on false charges anyway. This kind of technology cannot be used to somehow magically spy on your every moment. Nor can it record all your activities. It is just not how these kind of technologies work. (Also, seriously CCTV cant be hacked without being onsite. Further, most things like cameras cant really be hacked.) Lastly, in the case of things like roadblocks, technology like this would be a godsend for the police. In South Africa we have a huge problem with many criminals being out on bail just disappearing. At road blocks, a technology like this could help the police catch people for which there are warrants out for, far more easily, then relying on cross referencing their details or vehicle registration, which are both really easy to fake. (America has a 10 most wanted, I kid you not when I say South Africa has a 100 most wanted list. This technology would really make finding those people hugely easier.) |
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Post by Dragon Zachski on Oct 13, 2011 8:16:32 GMT -5
I will laugh when you find yourself on the wrong side of an officious police officer misusing his powers. And I will laugh when you find your life saved because of a police officer using this system catches a murderer. Oh wait, you live in fucking Australia, this doesn't have anything to do with you. |
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Post by lighthorseman on Oct 13, 2011 11:06:17 GMT -5
I will laugh when you find yourself on the wrong side of an officious police officer misusing his powers. And I'll laugh the day an honest cop saves your life. Because seriously, dude. Yes, there are cops who misuse their power. They account for a tiny, tiny fraction of all cops. You hear about them all the time because no one bothers writing news stories about all the cops who just do their jobs the way they're supposed to. You're no better than the moms who think a child molester is hiding behind every corner wanking it to their children because she hears stories about a handful of cases of it, each thousands of miles apart, and can't do the math that the chances of anything happening to her own kids are exceptionally tiny. Grow a fucking sense of perspective about the world before you make yourself sound even stupider. Though at this rate, that would be quite an accomplishment by itself. You mean, does his job? So all the honest cops balance out the few bent ones? We should just bend over and surrender our civil liberties because we trust that MOST cops won't abuse their powers? |
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Post by lighthorseman on Oct 13, 2011 11:07:24 GMT -5
I will laugh when you find yourself on the wrong side of an officious police officer misusing his powers. And I will laugh when you find your life saved because of a police officer using this system catches a murderer. Oh wait, you live in fucking Australia, this doesn't have anything to do with you. Riiiight... because American inteligence gathering systems are SO good at respecting national boundaries. |
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Post by lighthorseman on Oct 13, 2011 11:08:23 GMT -5
I will laugh when you find yourself on the wrong side of an officious police officer misusing his powers. Facial recognition software does not work from CCTV. CCTVs have far too low a resolution and are normally placed at angles that make seeing the face clearly next to impossible for humans, let alone computers. There is a reason why CCTV is hardly used as conclusive evidence that someone specific was at the scene of a crime. That was actually a really interesting and valid point, expressed without any needless flaming. Thanks  |
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Post by Kit Walker on Oct 13, 2011 11:56:56 GMT -5
LHM: Are you against the of fingerprints? Because it sounds like, and correct me if I am wrong, the two databases will be used exactly the same way. Local PD have fingerprint/photo from crime scene. They send said fingerprint/photo to the FBI database, who runs it through the computer. The computers compares it to a database of fingerprints/mugshots gathered from known or suspected criminals when they formally charged for prior offenses. Computer kicks out a list of matches, providing a possible suspects (or suspects) for the police to investigate. While the courts have not had a chance to rule on the matter yet, but I would bet $10 US that it will be considered probable cause for a warrant/investigation, not for an arrest.
Seriously, do you think police officers don't compare photos from crime scenes to mugshots already? This removes a modicum of human error from the process by replacing the human eyeball with math.
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Post by Rat Of Steel on Oct 13, 2011 13:51:06 GMT -5
The 'Dealing with AA's Bullshit' bar is now open! Pick your poison! Gimme a Four Horsemen, and give it wings. ;D |
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Post by priestling on Oct 13, 2011 15:44:28 GMT -5
A Four Horsemen? Been a while since I've made one of those up. I'll have to have one again sometime.
*mixes, adds red bull, plunks it down*
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Post by Rat Of Steel on Oct 13, 2011 15:49:22 GMT -5
That's not the meaning of "give it wings" I had in mind, ya smart-ass.  Meh, I'll have it, anyway. *takes the glass and slams its contents down the hatch...then waits a couple seconds to get his breath back* AWW, HELL YEAH!!!  |
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Post by Admiral Lithp on Oct 14, 2011 2:36:23 GMT -5
And I'll laugh the day an honest cop saves your life. Because seriously, dude. Yes, there are cops who misuse their power. They account for a tiny, tiny fraction of all cops. You hear about them all the time because no one bothers writing news stories about all the cops who just do their jobs the way they're supposed to. You're no better than the moms who think a child molester is hiding behind every corner wanking it to their children because she hears stories about a handful of cases of it, each thousands of miles apart, and can't do the math that the chances of anything happening to her own kids are exceptionally tiny. Grow a fucking sense of perspective about the world before you make yourself sound even stupider. Though at this rate, that would be quite an accomplishment by itself. You mean, does his job? So all the honest cops balance out the few bent ones? We should just bend over and surrender our civil liberties because we trust that MOST cops won't abuse their powers? Because, clearly, your only choices are that or being a raging douchebag about the police force in general. |
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Post by Distind on Oct 14, 2011 5:38:52 GMT -5
Facial recognition software does not work from CCTV. CCTVs have far too low a resolution and are normally placed at angles that make seeing the face clearly next to impossible for humans, let alone computers. There is a reason why CCTV is hardly used as conclusive evidence that someone specific was at the scene of a crime. That was actually a really interesting and valid point, expressed without any needless flaming. Thanks Now, when you see high definition cameras at face level then you can start getting worried(or get foot tall platform shoes). |
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Post by Distind on Oct 14, 2011 5:40:55 GMT -5
You mean, does his job? So all the honest cops balance out the few bent ones? We should just bend over and surrender our civil liberties because we trust that MOST cops won't abuse their powers? That's pretty much the assumption you have to operate under to have anyone in any position of authority. Until we come up with a genetic test for the asshole gene we're rather stuck with their continued existence. |
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