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Post by big_electron on Oct 18, 2011 12:19:44 GMT -5
Over the years, I changed my mind on the death penalty, that it should be abolished. One word: TEXAS, not Florida. If a mistake is made and innocent, or guilty but not deathworthy, person is executed, there is no way to reverse the mistake and make some kind of restitution to the person for lost years. It's all gone.
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Post by lighthorseman on Oct 18, 2011 12:33:56 GMT -5
However, for me, the possibility of executing an innocent person is all the argument I need not to support execution, and to prove to me that anyone who does is at least 29 points sociopathic Right. For the record, I agree. My discussion here, however assumes that execution is already accepted as appropriate, which it is, for the state of Florida. Me too, hence; heroin. |
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Post by canadian mojo on Oct 18, 2011 14:18:46 GMT -5
Meh, I'll take firing squad... Provided it's using a GAU-8 Avenger.
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Post by priestling on Oct 18, 2011 14:49:57 GMT -5
Going via railgun would be epic.
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Post by erictheblue on Oct 18, 2011 16:08:50 GMT -5
 Yes, that's a wood saw. And the guy is upside down so that the oxygenated blood will flow to his brain as long as possible, to maintain consciousness (not that the people doing this sort of thing believed in the circulatory system). It never ceases to amaze me how creative humans are when it comes to executing other humans. As painful as that would be, it would be faster than Death of a Thousand Cuts or (everyone's favorite) crucifixion. |
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Post by lighthorseman on Oct 18, 2011 16:21:12 GMT -5
Yes, that's a wood saw. And the guy is upside down so that the oxygenated blood will flow to his brain as long as possible, to maintain consciousness (not that the people doing this sort of thing believed in the circulatory system). It never ceases to amaze me how creative humans are when it comes to executing other humans. As painful as that would be, it would be faster than Death of a Thousand Cuts or (everyone's favorite) crucifixion. Well tried to come up with something unusual. |
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Post by askold on Oct 19, 2011 3:15:09 GMT -5
The thing about most forms of executions of later days is that they have been tailored to make the death more like a "procedure" and so that the executioner would not feel like a "murderer."
For example:
Firing squad: it's not just one guy, there are several shooters and traditionally one of them had a blank so that all of them could think "it wasn't me."
Electric chair, guillotine, poison-injection/gas, hanging: The executioner just uses a button/lever or somesuch to activate the machine. He/she is killing a person but it is done by a machine so that it would not be so "personal." "It is the machine/poison etc. that kills not me."
Using something like the "bolt-guns" (Not WH40k, I haven't found a proper translation, but I mean those things that are used for killing pets or farm animals. It looks like a little box and you place it against the animals skull to "fire" it.) would make the death quick, and quite certain, (Using a 12 gauge shell or something.) but it would make it "violent" and since it would be basically placing a gun against someones head and pulling the trigger, it would "look bad."
Both for the executioner (possible mental trauma) and for the public (something like this would cause a public backlash in most countries.)
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Post by dasfuchs on Oct 19, 2011 10:21:43 GMT -5
I personally should be a choice in how you want to go out. There were (dunno if they still do) places you could opt for gassing, shooting, hanging, etc.
Also while I don't want to be inhumane...I have a hard time gathering sympathy for someone that felt the need end someone's life in a brutal fashion
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Post by Ranger Joe on Oct 19, 2011 12:48:32 GMT -5
Couldn't it be firing squad OR lethal injection? Also, pop culture FAIL. How about a firing squad that shoots lethal injections! Also, firing squad generally shoots for the chest, not the head. Guns do fire lethal injections. 7.62mm of bullet can be fatal if applied correctly.  |
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Post by Ranger Joe on Oct 19, 2011 12:50:43 GMT -5
Believe it or not, I am actually in favour of this. While I do ideally oppose the death penalty in all circumstances, lethal injection needs to be abolished immediately. Doctors and nurses should never have any role in putting someone to death. Or at very least put their names up on a website somewhere. Killing is addictive. I don't want to go to a doctor who has developed a taste for blood. Killing is addictive? Then why haven't I had the uncontrollable urge to kill people? I definitely had more than the lion's share of confirmed kills in the military. Where do you get this stuff? Seriously...LoL |
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Post by priestling on Oct 19, 2011 13:22:46 GMT -5
well, it IS AA, Joe... I think he's a full suit shy of a deck of cards.
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Post by tolpuddlemartyr on Oct 20, 2011 0:13:45 GMT -5
Believe it or not, I am actually in favour of this. While I do ideally oppose the death penalty in all circumstances, lethal injection needs to be abolished immediately. Doctors and nurses should never have any role in putting someone to death. Or at very least put their names up on a website somewhere. Killing is addictive. I don't want to go to a doctor who has developed a taste for blood. Killing is addictive? Then why haven't I had the uncontrollable urge to kill people? I definitely had more than the lion's share of confirmed kills in the military. Where do you get this stuff? Seriously...LoL AA has slain many foes with his internet-fu! |
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Post by priestling on Oct 20, 2011 0:18:28 GMT -5
or so he likes to think in his deluded little world.
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Post by cestlefun17 on Oct 20, 2011 3:49:11 GMT -5
That's the whole reason why the death penalty is wrong: justice and revenge are not one and the same, and are actually incompatible. Criminals should be punished, certainly, but part of living in a civilized society means we must always hold ourselves to a higher standard than those who have wronged us.
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Post by lighthorseman on Oct 20, 2011 5:45:41 GMT -5
That's the whole reason why the death penalty is wrong: justice and revenge are not one and the same, and are actually incompatible. Criminals should be punished, certainly, but part of living in a civilized society means we must always hold ourselves to a higher standard than those who have wronged us. Pretty much what the Norwegians said about that Brejvik guy. |
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