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Post by rageaholic on Nov 5, 2011 23:42:11 GMT -5
I actually came to this forum just because I needed to unleash some righteous rage about those stupid comments defending this fucker.
All these dumbass conservative christians blaming the liberals for everything wrong in the world when they are the ones who are in favor of all this corporal punishment crap (and other idiotic/barbaric practices). I even heard one say that she'll probably end up as one of those "occupy wall street nuts". If I hear one more time about "spare the rod spoil the bible" I will take a bible and shove it so hard up some self righteous fundies ass that it will put a new meaning to the phrase "holy shit".
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Post by Iosa the Invincible on Nov 6, 2011 0:16:51 GMT -5
First of all, I can't say I'm completely surprised that no charges were laid. Secondly, some of the comments on that news article are fucking unbelievably RAGE worthy. They are... To add to these, we also have: 1) A commentator who keeps asking for "proof" of abuse like a brain dead parrot because apparently the video isn't good enough 2) A commentator who equated no physical discipline to no discipline at all, and then went on to tell a "life story" to show how much better he was than those who raised kids with "no discipline" (again, no physical discipline does not equal no discipline at all, dumbass) 3) Multiple commentators who excuse the behavior because "I got whipped worse than this when I was a kid, and turned out better than those wussie liberal spoiled brats" (one even said he thanks his parents for every beating he got, and then went on some bizarre tangent on how he sends much of his paycheck to his parents for survival or something) 4) Multiple commentators who believe she deserved it because she downloaded music, and the father has a right to discipline her however he wants 5) One commentator who went on the whole "ever since corporal punishment stopped, society is worse" spiel, claiming opponents to this ignore the facts without actually providing any of their own 6) And of course, the commentator who has to use this make a dig at OWS, accuser her and OWS of being nothing but college age stoner welfare queens And keep in mind that this is all on the first fucking page. Out of 25.One comment even justified it by saying that she was 16 and should've known better than to disobey her father, like kids should grow up expecting to get beaten for 7 minutes with a belt. You could replace 'child' with 'woman' in this scenario: "Hey, she's 35 and knew better than to go against her husband. She shouldn't complain when she gets the shit beaten out of her." Why is this behavior unacceptable on an adult, but okay when done to a minor?/end rant |
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Post by rageaholic on Nov 6, 2011 10:49:48 GMT -5
To add to these, we also have: Yeah I remember hearing a few accessing her of "hamming it up" for the hidden camera. For real?! On the off chance that she was, how does that explain the father's cold blooded torture? T Then you got those who accuse her of being a spoiled brat because her "daddy wanted to take away her mercedes". Well just because she was rich and her father gave her good things doesn't mean that he wasn't any less of an abusive fuck. It gets worse and worse with some claiming she was faking cerebral palsy and others saying that she was provoking him into hitting her for the camera. No words.... Oh I love those. They think that those who oppose corporal punishment will let our kids reek havock on the world. Not that it's any surprise that fundies will resort to strawmen and extreme arguements. I love how they blame the "wussie liberals". So not wanting to hurt or abuse others makes us "wussies"? Well I have to give them credit, they're actually arguing our point for us! Show's we're more enlightened and compassionate than any phony ass Conservative Christian. And I highly doubt those who "turn out better" for being whipped, especially since they'll most likely do the same shit to their kids. Even worse are a few I've read where they say she deserved all the other whippings for not complying with her father's demand to "bend over the fucking bed". She was disobient? NO SHIT SHERLOCK!! It was probably out of self preservation. WTF is up with Christians and "obedience" anyway? I really get disturbed when I hear all this talk about obediance and how if we disobey we should be punished. Just like the father using "disobediance" as an excuse to whip his daughter. Are children supposed to be their parents slaves? All this talk about the parents right to discipline, but nothing about the childrens rights. Of course ignoring any evidance to the contrary and claiming it's "evil liberal socialist agenda". One comment I read claimed that she'll probably end up in the protests, like it's a bad thing.  Because children aren't considered equal to adults in many peoples eyes. Just look at the public schools and how little rights the students have there. I could go on and on, but that's probably for another thread. |
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Post by scotsgit on Nov 8, 2011 6:14:52 GMT -5
Runa, to be fair, something I spent an hour yesterday scraping off the bottom of my shoe is more intelligent than her parents.  |
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Post by Runa on Nov 8, 2011 6:47:24 GMT -5
Runa, to be fair, something I spent an hour yesterday scraping off the bottom of my shoe is more intelligent than her parents. Used chewing gum?  |
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Post by scotsgit on Nov 8, 2011 7:33:58 GMT -5
Runa, to be fair, something I spent an hour yesterday scraping off the bottom of my shoe is more intelligent than her parents. Used chewing gum? No, it was easier to clean but....... smellier.  |
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Post by N. De Plume on Nov 8, 2011 8:06:33 GMT -5
Used chewing gum? No, it was easier to clean but....... smellier. So I am guessing: Some type of animal dung? |
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Post by scotsgit on Nov 8, 2011 8:55:52 GMT -5
No, it was easier to clean but....... smellier. So I am guessing: Some type of animal dung? Either that or a Fox News employee. ;D |
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Post by szaleniec on Nov 8, 2011 12:00:14 GMT -5
Theft of what? Bandwidth?
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Post by erictheblue on Nov 8, 2011 13:16:13 GMT -5
Theft of what? Bandwidth? Music. She was torrenting music. |
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Post by Dragon Zachski on Nov 8, 2011 13:47:24 GMT -5
I thought she had pirated a game.
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Post by szaleniec on Nov 8, 2011 14:02:38 GMT -5
There's something very depressing about the commenter finding the idea of unlicensed downloading being theft (of what from whom? You're just rearranging a few magnetic poles on a hard drive!) easier to grasp than the idea of it being wrong to physically abuse your family.
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Post by N. De Plume on Nov 8, 2011 14:41:30 GMT -5
You might want to look up some of the ethical issues behind IP rights, szaleniec.
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Post by A Reasonable Rat on Nov 8, 2011 14:45:41 GMT -5
I was reading the posts about how the video said that the girl's mother was also a victim and who was pressured into co-abuse, and the responses saying that she should be held just as accountable as the father in her daughter's suffering.
It made me think about when I was a teenager, living under my father, who was very abusive in a similar way. My mother would put up a stern front like that and tell me to let her spank me, because she would only strike me 3 times with an open palm. That may sound horrible, but my mother was protecting me. She had to talk my father into allowing her to be the one to punish me, because 3 open-handed swats hurt a lot less than 5-10 strikes with a narrow leather belt, which was how he liked to do it.
She was also abused and frightened, my father beat her as much as me, as well as kept her psychologically demoralized, brainwashed, and drugged. And if he thought she was subverting his authority or my fear of him, he would have thrown a tantrum and terrorized both of us. Even though she hit me, yelled at me, and punished me when my father decided I needed it, I have forgiven her because I know why she did it.
I don't know how much alike this situation is to my own, but my experiences have made me more likely to be biased... to give greater benefit of the doubt.
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Post by Dragon Zachski on Nov 8, 2011 15:01:30 GMT -5
There's something very depressing about the commenter finding the idea of unlicensed downloading being theft (of what from whom? You're just rearranging a few magnetic poles on a hard drive!) easier to grasp than the idea of it being wrong to physically abuse your family. Personally, I don't consider piracy to be theft at all. Theft isn't just taking something that doesn't belong to you, it's taking it away from someone it does belong to. (That is, a thief steals your TV, not only did he take YOUR TV, but now you don't have that TV to watch.) Piracy would be more like entering a town, magically copying every valuable in it, and leaving without actually causing any damage or taking anything away from anyone. I'm not saying it's right (that's a whole 'nother can of worms) I'm just saying it's not theft. It's its own unique creature, it's shaped like itself. And either way, I agree with you, it isn't even 1% as bad as beating someone with a belt >  |
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