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Post by nightangel1282 on Nov 12, 2011 1:51:33 GMT -5
Apparently they recently did a poll here in Canada and (unsurprisingly) most Canadians are against legalized euthanasia. My own feelings on the issue are a little mixed, but my own personal view is that if someone is in excrutiating pain and they're going to die for certain in a short period of time anyway, then why force that individual to suffer if they don't WANT to? As long as the patient is coherent and in their right mind when they ask to be put out of their misery, then why should anyone be able to tell them 'no?' Here's a link to the article I found. I'm interested in hearing other people's viewpoints on this issue. ca.news.yahoo.com/blogs/dailybrew/poll-suggests-canadians-not-keen-legalize-euthanasia-200414947.html
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Post by lexikon on Nov 12, 2011 2:02:26 GMT -5
Well, there's no accurate way to measure pain, but I think it should be legal. Although I do think that this could be a way to cheat out of inheritance tax, by convincing their dying relatives to die earlier or later, although that requires tax laws to be passed the next year.
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Post by syaoranvee on Nov 12, 2011 2:04:28 GMT -5
It's a human right to be able to die on your own terms. For people to not allow you a dignified death just so to not be able to term it "suicide" in some way are a bunch of rat bastards.
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Post by Art Vandelay on Nov 12, 2011 2:11:40 GMT -5
My own views are quite simple. If someone wants to die, its their life and therefore their decision. Nobody has any business telling them otherwise.
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Post by ltfred on Nov 12, 2011 3:06:20 GMT -5
It's a person's choice. I've heard arguments for why people should choose not to kill themselves, but never why the government should stop them.
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Post by davedan on Nov 12, 2011 3:12:35 GMT -5
Its funny you know - I have no problem with voluntary euthanasia for old people or people with terminal illnesses but I would kind of be freaked out if there was a youth epidemic of it.
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Post by lighthorseman on Nov 12, 2011 3:55:20 GMT -5
Its funny you know - I have no problem with voluntary euthanasia for old people or people with terminal illnesses but I would kind of be freaked out if there was a youth epidemic of it. Euthanasia rather suggests a person in an accutely terminal condition. While I support clinical euthanasia under certain highly specific circumstances, I don't think anyone is arguing to extend it to otherwise healthy people, are they?
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Post by davedan on Nov 12, 2011 4:20:43 GMT -5
There was a lot of stuff above me which just seemed to say. Right to die. Kill yourself your choice. Without further caveat. I was just making sure I included my caveat. No 17 y o lemmings should be left to throw themselves off cliffs or slit their wrists in my train carriage.
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Post by lighthorseman on Nov 12, 2011 4:22:00 GMT -5
There was a lot of stuff above me which just seemed to say. Right to die. Kill yourself your choice. Fairenough. To earlier posters, do you think a "right to die" extends to healthy people?
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Post by ironbite on Nov 12, 2011 4:28:38 GMT -5
Eh...yes and no. It's really a grey area that can and will get you into a lot of trouble. Everyone does have the right to live. I haven't seen a law on the books that says you've got the right to die.
Ironbite-I'd keep it to people with terminal diseases so they can choose when they die, not the disease.
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Post by nightangel1282 on Nov 12, 2011 4:34:04 GMT -5
I think healthy people who want to die should see a psychiatrist to find the underlying reasons for it and try to make them see that they could still have a long wonderful life ahead of them. I'm only in favor of euthanasia if the person is terminally ill and going to die soon anyway. All euthanasia would do in that case is save them some pain.
I mean, if you stop to think about it, it almost seems sometimes that animals are treated better than humans. If your cat or dog gets horribly sick and you KNOW it's going to die soon, do you just leave it in its box and try to make it as comfortable as you can until its natural death comes? 99% of the people I know would take it to the vet and have the poor thing put out of its misery. And yet if someone is in such excrutiating pain that even the most powerful painkillers do diddly, and they want to die and get it over with, they're given flack by people for wanting to end their life before 'their natural time', and force them to suffer up until the end. I simply don't see the logic or MERCY in that.
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Post by Admiral Lithp on Nov 12, 2011 5:09:01 GMT -5
Eh...yes and no. It's really a grey area that can and will get you into a lot of trouble. Everyone does have the right to live. I haven't seen a law on the books that says you've got the right to die. Ironbite-I'd keep it to people with terminal diseases so they can choose when they die, not the disease. Well, that'd be why it's a controversy. As I recall, the "right to die movement," among other things, got most states to decriminalize suicide. So you could make a case for the "right to die" there. What complicates the matter of "youth suicide" for me is that you can always try again, but there's no going back if you succeed. So I'm not sure where to draw the line & say, "Okay, at this point no one should stop you from killing yourself."
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Post by Dragon Zachski on Nov 12, 2011 5:24:41 GMT -5
I never really understood suicide being a crime.
Are they going to arrest your corpse?
I'm assuming that it applies to attempted suicide, which would make more sense, and then consequently take a nosedive into "ass-backwards" territory.
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Post by Admiral Lithp on Nov 12, 2011 5:33:51 GMT -5
Basically that.
Reasons for its decriminalization were that it was easier to help people, depression shouldn't be treated like a crime, etc.
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Post by Art Vandelay on Nov 12, 2011 6:03:29 GMT -5
There was a lot of stuff above me which just seemed to say. Right to die. Kill yourself your choice. Fairenough. To earlier posters, do you think a "right to die" extends to healthy people? In my case, yes. I'm quite big on total control over ones own body. It's why I'm also pro abortion and pro drug legalisation.
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