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Post by Vene on Nov 25, 2011 13:17:55 GMT -5
Parents who do not have their children fully immunised will be stripped of family tax benefits under a scheme announced by the Federal Government.
The Government says 11 per cent of five-year-olds are not immunised and has announced a shake-up of the system which will take effect from July 1 next year. www.abc.net.au/news/2011-11-25/immunise-or-lose-benefits-parents-told/3694236Good job, Australia, I think other countries should copy this or implement something similar. |
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Post by Dragon Zachski on Nov 25, 2011 14:00:49 GMT -5
As long as shots are government funded (as in, you can get an appointment and get one without having to pay, or at least having to pay too much) then I have no problem with this.
...flu shots like... barely covered by our insurance.
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Post by lexikon on Nov 25, 2011 14:09:48 GMT -5
How many families are going to take the higher taxes so their kid's don't "get autism" (or is this just an American thing)
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Post by Vene on Nov 25, 2011 14:13:28 GMT -5
Zach, Australia has universal health care.
Lexi, don't care, the number will be lower than without this policy.
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Post by brendanrizzo on Nov 25, 2011 15:25:18 GMT -5
Ooh, the anti-vaxxers (can't we just call 'em anti-vaccinators? That way I wouldn't have to use a ridiculous double X) will be all over this one. I can see it now, conspiracy theories saying "The Australian government is blackmailing parents into making their kids autistic! WAKE UP AMERICA AUSTRALIA!"
This'll be fun to watch.
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Post by ltfred on Nov 25, 2011 16:19:39 GMT -5
Coercing people into being healthy. A significant role for government is protecting everyone from the minority who are complete idiots.
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Post by Wykked Wytch on Nov 25, 2011 16:23:17 GMT -5
I think it's unfortunate but it has to be done. I'm generally against making people do stuff that's against their beliefs, but vaccines are a public health safety measure. By not getting a shot, you're not only putting yourself at risk, but you're also putting at risk the people who are too old or too young to get shots, as well as the people with immune disorders. Also, Australia can actually pay for all the shots, so yay.
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Post by ltfred on Nov 25, 2011 16:38:45 GMT -5
You can draw a distinction between reasonable opinions or personal preferences and factually false bullshit fraudsters tricked people into believing.
Does your right to believe and act on something that is factually untrue beat my right to be healthy? I'd say no.
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Post by Aqualung on Nov 25, 2011 17:41:38 GMT -5
That would never fly in the US. Sadly.
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Post by tolpuddlemartyr on Nov 25, 2011 18:03:42 GMT -5
I think it's unfortunate but it has to be done. I'm generally against making people do stuff that's against their beliefs, but vaccines are a public health safety measure. I know Americans are very fond of individual rights and so am I but as far as I'm concerned your right to freedom of choice ends when your choices can seriously fuck other people up-that includes turning your littlies into incubators for future pandemics! |
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Post by lighthorseman on Nov 25, 2011 18:13:51 GMT -5
I think most non compliiant parents are lazy rather than "true believers", this policy may be the nudge they need.
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Post by Wykked Wytch on Nov 25, 2011 18:20:54 GMT -5
I think it's unfortunate but it has to be done. I'm generally against making people do stuff that's against their beliefs, but vaccines are a public health safety measure. I know Americans are very fond of individual rights and so am I but as far as I'm concerned your right to freedom of choice ends when your choices can seriously fuck other people up-that includes turning your littlies into incubators for future pandemics! I'm pretty sure I made it clear that I was in support of this new Australian law. |
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Post by ltfred on Nov 25, 2011 18:33:51 GMT -5
I think most non compliiant parents are lazy rather than "true believers", this policy may be the nudge they need. I can't figure out which would be worse. So lazy you'd threaten your kid's life (and other people's lives)? Or so stupid you''d threaten them? |
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Post by Dragon Zachski on Nov 25, 2011 19:25:04 GMT -5
Zach, Australia has universal health care. Lexi, don't care, the number will be lower than without this policy. Aware of that. Just worried about other countries, such as the USA, adopting it WITHOUT universal health care. |
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Post by Vene on Nov 25, 2011 19:27:45 GMT -5
Zach, Australia has universal health care. Lexi, don't care, the number will be lower than without this policy. Aware of that. Just worried about other countries, such as the USA, adopting it WITHOUT universal health care. Shots are already required to enter public schools in many states, so we can easily use that system. |
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