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Post by Meshakhad on Dec 7, 2011 0:10:59 GMT -5
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Post by lighthorseman on Dec 7, 2011 0:27:55 GMT -5
For a foreigner, explain to me would ya? Say you're a youngish American, you work, pay taxes, all of that, and because you are young, fit and healthy, you havn't bothered with insurance yet. Say you come down with an expensive, chronic, but otherwise survivable condition. What exactly happens after diagnosis? Lets say 23 year old male diagnosed with a really treatable non-Hodgkin lymphoma. So with full chemo and therapy, you have a better than 80% chance of survival, but you have no money to pay for $100k worth of medical treatment. What happens?
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Post by Dragon Zachski on Dec 7, 2011 0:35:36 GMT -5
"And they don't go to the emergency room or they don't go to the doctor when they need to. And it's not the fault of the government for not providing some sort of universal benefit." They can't do either of these because they don't have the money, Santorum.
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Post by Vene on Dec 7, 2011 0:40:15 GMT -5
For a foreigner, explain to me would ya? Say you're a youngish American, you work, pay taxes, all of that, and because you are young, fit and healthy, you havn't bothered with insurance yet. Say you come down with an expensive, chronic, but otherwise survivable condition. What exactly happens after diagnosis? Lets say 23 year old male diagnosed with a really treatable non-Hodgkin lymphoma. So with full chemo and therapy, you have a better than 80% chance of survival, but you have no money to pay for $100k worth of medical treatment. What happens? Massive debt is a possibility, you probably can't get emergency room care because cancer isn't an emergency, or you could just die.
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Post by lighthorseman on Dec 7, 2011 0:42:48 GMT -5
For a foreigner, explain to me would ya? Say you're a youngish American, you work, pay taxes, all of that, and because you are young, fit and healthy, you havn't bothered with insurance yet. Say you come down with an expensive, chronic, but otherwise survivable condition. What exactly happens after diagnosis? Lets say 23 year old male diagnosed with a really treatable non-Hodgkin lymphoma. So with full chemo and therapy, you have a better than 80% chance of survival, but you have no money to pay for $100k worth of medical treatment. What happens? Those are really the only options, death or debt? Massive debt is a possibility, you probably can't get emergency room care because cancer isn't an emergency, or you could just die.
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Post by Dragon Zachski on Dec 7, 2011 0:44:36 GMT -5
Massive debt is a possibility, you probably can't get emergency room care because cancer isn't an emergency, or you could just die. Those are really the only options, death or debt? Yes. And sometimes, debt isn't available as an option.
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Post by Iosa the Invincible on Dec 7, 2011 0:45:12 GMT -5
For a foreigner, explain to me would ya? Say you're a youngish American, you work, pay taxes, all of that, and because you are young, fit and healthy, you havn't bothered with insurance yet. Say you come down with an expensive, chronic, but otherwise survivable condition. What exactly happens after diagnosis? Lets say 23 year old male diagnosed with a really treatable non-Hodgkin lymphoma. So with full chemo and therapy, you have a better than 80% chance of survival, but you have no money to pay for $100k worth of medical treatment. What happens? I really can't answer that, but in the comments for the article, we have these two stories: I know comment stories like these should be taken with a grain of salt, but the second one I believe because when my mom was in a long distance relationship with someone from England, one of my younger siblings got something like temporary asthma (it's not chronic, and as far as I know, they're not bothered by it anymore). When my mom mentioned to him how much she had to pay for the inhaler, she said he paused and ask, "You mean you can't get that stuff for free?"
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Post by Vene on Dec 7, 2011 0:45:53 GMT -5
You could try charity and hope to get lucky.
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Post by lexikon on Dec 7, 2011 0:49:09 GMT -5
Yeah, Ron Paul will provide.
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Post by Thejebusfire on Dec 7, 2011 0:55:22 GMT -5
Mr. Perry, have you ever stopped to think that these people can't afford to go?
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Post by Iosa the Invincible on Dec 7, 2011 1:09:28 GMT -5
Mr. Perry, have you ever stopped to think that these people can't afford to go? He's probably of the mind that "money shouldn't factor into a life or death situation" and "they're choosing to die because they're choosing money over life, so it's their fault."
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Post by Dragon Zachski on Dec 7, 2011 2:06:25 GMT -5
Sorry, Santorum, when your bank account + Next month's paycheck - Groceries < Hospital Bill, you can't afford health care.
Are politicians required to consume some sort of "Stupid Serum" that prevents them from seeing stuff like this?
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Post by foolishwisdom on Dec 7, 2011 2:23:39 GMT -5
Mr. Perry, have you ever stopped to think that these people can't afford to go? This is the man who wanted to get rid of three government agencies, including education, and couldn't remember the third one. Remember?
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Post by ltfred on Dec 7, 2011 2:58:28 GMT -5
A huge number of people go to (government-mandated) emergency rooms anyway. The problem with this is that it's way more expensive- and that this is often the last resort for patients. Meaning that disease has often progressed, reducing health outcomes and again increasing costs (while clogging up the emergency room).
The US has universal health insurance, just the worst possible type.
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Post by lighthorseman on Dec 7, 2011 3:54:08 GMT -5
Sorry guys, but to someone who grew up with A. health insurance and B. state sponsored medical care this really sounds beyond ludicrous.
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