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Post by N. De Plume on Dec 7, 2011 20:03:42 GMT -5
And refrigerators. Don't forget those. Beat me to it. ;D
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Post by ironbite on Dec 7, 2011 20:27:26 GMT -5
Sorry guys, but to someone who grew up with A. health insurance and B. state sponsored medical care this really sounds beyond ludicrous. Btw, know that stroke you just suffered? Ironbite-yeah you'd still be in recovery.
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Post by DeadpanDoubter on Dec 7, 2011 21:05:35 GMT -5
Sorry guys, but to someone who grew up with A. health insurance and B. state sponsored medical care this really sounds beyond ludicrous. Btw, know that stroke you just suffered? Ironbite-yeah you'd still be in recovery. Recovery? Would he even be alive?
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Post by Vene on Dec 7, 2011 21:14:50 GMT -5
Btw, know that stroke you just suffered? Ironbite-yeah you'd still be in recovery. Recovery? Would he even be alive? He's a nurse, he would probably be able to afford health insurance. Although he might have to put off stuff like a new car or a vacation or, in his case, new armor. ETA: Oh, I also forgot about lost wages. Does Australia do anything to compensate you for time away from work due to a medical issue?
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Post by Shane for Wax on Dec 7, 2011 21:27:33 GMT -5
Being a survivor of many things that would have killed me in days without medical attention, it seems ludicrous that others can't get the same care. But there are many who can't. and we need to change that. COMMUNIST SOCIALIST HIPPIE LIEBERAL SCUMBAG! ...I'm beginning to suspect I've been implanted with a conservative reaction chip. Is this similar to Spike's 'can't hurt people' chip?
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Post by Aqualung on Dec 7, 2011 22:40:39 GMT -5
Recovery? Would he even be alive? He's a nurse, he would probably be able to afford health insurance. Although he might have to put off stuff like a new car or a vacation or, in his case, new armor. ETA: Oh, I also forgot about lost wages. Does Australia do anything to compensate you for time away from work due to a medical issue? Never mind that, in the US he probably wouldn't have a job to go back to.
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Post by Vene on Dec 7, 2011 22:58:31 GMT -5
Eh, nurses are in high enough demand LHM probably would. But for most of the middle and lower class, not so much.
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Post by lighthorseman on Dec 8, 2011 1:04:43 GMT -5
Sorry guys, but to someone who grew up with A. health insurance and B. state sponsored medical care this really sounds beyond ludicrous. Btw, know that stroke you just suffered? Ironbite-yeah you'd still be in recovery. Well, my private health insurance is paying for top of the line care now, but for two weeks I was in the public system. It wasn't AS good, but I still received adequate care. I guess I think of that as a baseline. Recovery? Would he even be alive? He's a nurse, he would probably be able to afford health insurance. Although he might have to put off stuff like a new car or a vacation or, in his case, new armor. ETA: Oh, I also forgot about lost wages. Does Australia do anything to compensate you for time away from work due to a medical issue? Well interesting you should ask... under Australian law, my job is protected for up to two years, that means if I pass the relevent health checks, they have to take me back. There is no special wellfare benefit once your sick leave runs out, so I guess lots of people would be living on some sort of temporary disability pension while they recover which wouldn't be much. However as part of my superannuation, which is, I think, sorta like an American 401k, I have income protection, so my super fund will pay 75% of my regular salary from 2 weeks after I exhaust my sick leave, for up to 2 years. So there may yet be more armour, for now I have to worry about regaining strength and dfunctionality enough to wear it. All in all, I will end up taking a financial hit, but it won't cripple me for life, assuming I can get back to work, eventually.
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Post by N. De Plume on Dec 8, 2011 9:09:38 GMT -5
All in all, I will end up taking a financial hit, but it won't cripple me for life, assuming I can get back to work, eventually. Hey, I’m gettin’ jelly over here!
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Post by Vene on Dec 8, 2011 10:12:59 GMT -5
Well, my private health insurance is paying for top of the line care now, but for two weeks I was in the public system. It wasn't AS good, but I still received adequate care. I guess I think of that as a baseline. That can't be right, I've heard that public health care is so inefficient it'll run private health insurance companies out of business.
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Post by Bezron on Dec 8, 2011 10:36:06 GMT -5
Well, my private health insurance is paying for top of the line care now, but for two weeks I was in the public system. It wasn't AS good, but I still received adequate care. I guess I think of that as a baseline. That can't be right, I've heard that public health care is so inefficient it'll run private health insurance companies out of business. Frankly, I'm surprised he has actually gotten in to see a doctor for the initial visit (when he actually had the stroke). We all know that public healthcare leaves people sitting in waiting rooms for years just waiting to be seen. You know, because the doctors are so underpaid that they don't want to be doctors any longer.
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Post by Shane for Wax on Dec 8, 2011 11:05:55 GMT -5
Where I live both the civilian hospital and the military hospital get you in to a doctor relatively quickly.
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Post by Oriet on Dec 8, 2011 14:09:26 GMT -5
As a veteran with a service related disability (even though it took them a while to recognise it was service related) I actually get free care at the VA, aside from an $8 copay on medication. It's good medical care too, and is even providing the best mental health care I ever have. My question is why can't every citizen have it? It would greatly reduce the overall cost of healthcare as you would then not have so many health insurance companies taking a sizable cut out of each payment and sometimes charging more for the copay on a medication than the medication is actually worth (my aunt ran into that), as well as then people won't have to rely on emergency room care in order to get something looked at or treated, which would of course reduce costs even further.
But, I don't expect this to change any time soon, considering how many politicians profit in one way or another from the practice of insurance companies making as much money as they can from their insurees. For profit medicine really is despicable, because it forces people to pay ransom for their health.
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Post by lighthorseman on Dec 9, 2011 0:18:20 GMT -5
No, I've gotta say, credit where credit's due, for a public hospital in regional area, I was seen by doctors and aeromedically evacuated very quickly. Eventually, I believe I will receive a bill from the ambulance service, but I don't think I'd be too far of guestimating that I received $100k of public health care in the 2 weeks I was being looked after by the public health system at no cost to me. Like I said, its not AS good as the private system, everyone is noticeabley more rushed and the facilities aren't as nice, for example, but if it was a choice between that or nuthin, it was more than adequate.
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Post by brendanrizzo on Dec 10, 2011 21:19:46 GMT -5
*Reads comments about the superiority of non-American healthcare systems*
GOD DAMN IT, GOP, why must you hold us back?! I am tired of belonging to the laughingstock of the entire free world! Nothing can erase the shame of being an American in the current era-- nothing! Even if we were to become more liberal than Canada, Australia, and all the countries of Europe combined, it wouldn't mean anything to me, because I have had to live in the PRESENT time!
I hate them so much.
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