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Post by Amaranth on Sept 27, 2009 23:43:28 GMT -5
rhoo when someone states that there may be a problem little or big i am one who wants to try to help. My qualifications are that i am an ordained minister. Ordained by God and by the church. Can I see God's signature? I think He passed me a couple bad checks... |
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Post by ironbite on Sept 28, 2009 1:02:25 GMT -5
What's your obsession with demons anyways? Seriouslly. I haven't seen a fundie this obessessed with demons since....well anyone!
Ironbite-you really honestly believe that demons have nothing better to do with their time then torment the "faithful"?
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Post by Vene on Sept 28, 2009 1:06:57 GMT -5
vene there is no pointing out sin for those who know it. And it is not for me to judge but to give knowledge to those who need it. No such thing as sin. rhoo when someone states that there may be a problem little or big i am one who wants to try to help. My qualifications are that i am an ordained minister. Ordained by God and by the church. Hey, I'm ordained too. |
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Post by RavynousHunter on Sept 28, 2009 2:28:14 GMT -5
Yeah, I'm an Ordained Minister of the Church of Cthulhu.
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Post by Vene on Sept 28, 2009 3:12:33 GMT -5
This thread reminds me that I should really get around to registering myself with the state. Oh well, that's apathy for you.
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Post by Rime on Sept 28, 2009 5:55:34 GMT -5
lonelocust i was not using my life as an empathy getter. i was just pointing out a worse case scenario that i could relate to. here is a lesson from our site on it that probably explains it better. i don't remember if i have sent it here or not . if not here it is. Also as far as breaking down imaginary bondages that is not so. What is a soul tie? Not sure what to think of the deliverance ministry? Please take a moment to read What the ministry of deliverance should be! A soul tie is like a linkage in the soul realm between two people. It links their souls together, which can bring fourth both beneficial results or negative results. The positive effect of a soul tie: In a godly marriage, God links the two together and the Bible tells us that they become one flesh. As a result of them becoming one flesh, it binds them together and they will cleave onto one another in a unique way. The purpose of this cleaving is to build a very healthy, strong and close relationship between a man and a woman. Matthew 19:5, "And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh." Soul ties can also be found in close strong or close friendships. They are not just limited to marriage, as we can see with King David and Jonathan: 1 Samuel 18:1, "And it came to pass, when he had made an end of speaking unto Saul, that the soul of Jonathan was knit with the soul of David, and Jonathan loved him as his own soul." The negative effect of a soul tie: Soul ties can also be used for the devil's advantage. Soul ties formed from sex outside of marriage causes a person to become defiled: Genesis 34:2-3, "And when Shechem the son of Hamor the Hivite, prince of the country, saw her, he took her, and lay with her, and defiled her. And his soul cleaved unto Dinah the daughter of Jacob, and he loved the damsel, and spoke kindly unto the damsel." This is why it is so common for a person to still have 'feelings' towards an ex-lover that they have no right to be attracted to in that way. Even 20 years down the road, a person may still think of their first lover... even if he or she is across the country and has their own family, all because of a soul tie! Demonic spirits can also take advantage of ungodly soul ties, and use them to transfer spirits between one person to another. I remember one young man I led through a deliverance; he was facing severe demonic visitations and torment all thanks to an ungodly soul tie. I led him to broke the soul tie, and the attacks stopped completely! Ezekiel 23:17, "And the Babylonians came to her into the bed of love, and they defiled her with their whoredom, and she was polluted with them." Thank you for telling me about what the ministry of deliverance should be! Now, can you recommend a good dressing for that word salad? |
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Post by lightmelon on Sept 28, 2009 6:02:52 GMT -5
Here's the thing. The kind of astrology you see in newspapers and magazines is targeted to a large group of people, and therefore totally bogus for the most part. It is true that in studying astrology that major astrological occurrences, positions of planets and so forth does influence people at large- but the influence varies depending on the individuals chart, this is easy to understand considering that even in basic astrology courses you'll learn signs have certain relations between the others, and for instance also, someone for example, say, has a lot of Venus in thier chart. So a astrological occurence that has to do with Venus would hit them a lot harder than someone with none. See where I'm getting at?
So, basically unless applied to the individual, prediction type astrology is kinda bogus. Using it to chart personalities is what truly captivates me. When I meant that it would be hard for science to prove, I didn't mean that as it would be hard for them to prove, I meant that it would be hard to ever get them to unbiasedly TRY and prove the validity of a personality natal chart. I mean, it's not a study many people try to seriously understand. Most people these days equate astrology immediately with the shit in Cosmopolitan and give it no second thought. Either the scientists would have biased viewpoints and cut corners, or some group of people would bitch about wasting time and money on a project like that. Sigh, maybe I'm just a tad bit cynical.
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Post by Vypernight on Sept 28, 2009 6:25:00 GMT -5
while I don't 100% believe in New Age (which includes Astrology, right?), I do find it interesting. I don't see anything wrong with it or your views, Lightmelon.
As for people comparing your beliefs to those of Nautical999, the difference is you're not pushing your views on others or claiming that your views are right while those of other people are wrong. As long as you don't follow that pattern, there's nothing wrong with what you follow.
By the way, I also have a Tarot Card set (and a Dream Card set), though I have no idea how to use it. I just bought it because I always wanted to have one.
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Post by lightmelon on Sept 28, 2009 6:47:28 GMT -5
while I don't 100% believe in New Age (which includes Astrology, right?), I do find it interesting. I don't see anything wrong with it or your views, Lightmelon. As for people comparing your beliefs to those of Nautical999, the difference is you're not pushing your views on others or claiming that your views are right while those of other people are wrong. As long as you don't follow that pattern, there's nothing wrong with what you follow. By the way, I also have a Tarot Card set (and a Dream Card set), though I have no idea how to use it. I just bought it because I always wanted to have one. Yeah, I'd never push my shit on other people =/ And hell even if you don't know how to use it, having a tarot deck for purely aesthetics is satisfying nonetheless. But if you want help learning to use it, I could answer questions or try and help the best I can ^-^ |
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Post by Vypernight on Sept 28, 2009 7:05:42 GMT -5
while I don't 100% believe in New Age (which includes Astrology, right?), I do find it interesting. I don't see anything wrong with it or your views, Lightmelon. As for people comparing your beliefs to those of Nautical999, the difference is you're not pushing your views on others or claiming that your views are right while those of other people are wrong. As long as you don't follow that pattern, there's nothing wrong with what you follow. By the way, I also have a Tarot Card set (and a Dream Card set), though I have no idea how to use it. I just bought it because I always wanted to have one. Yeah, I'd never push my shit on other people =/ And hell even if you don't know how to use it, having a tarot deck for purely aesthetics is satisfying nonetheless. But if you want help learning to use it, I could answer questions or try and help the best I can ^-^ Thanks, although at the moment I think it's packed in a box somewhere from my previous move. |
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Post by Jedi Knight on Sept 28, 2009 8:24:38 GMT -5
By the way, I also have a Tarot Card set (and a Dream Card set), though I have no idea how to use it. I just bought it because I always wanted to have one. I have a Tarot Card set. Actually, I have two. I used to "read" people for fun, and they told me it was "spooky". I've heard that I am a very precise reader...Only later did it dawn on me: I was performing cold readings. |
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Post by nautical999 on Sept 28, 2009 10:02:50 GMT -5
valsa
the reason why i had stayed is for love. Ever since the first day i met her i was head over heals. all the times she has cheated, and there were many, she would manipulate me to get her back. Talking about how rough it is to be on her own and how she is doing without this and that. etc.....
And it seems like every time i was ready to move on she would be right over trying to get me back.
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Post by nautical999 on Sept 28, 2009 10:12:52 GMT -5
valsa
although it may seem the ticket to a happy life is atheism, The big picture is not this life but eternity. The ticket to an eternal life of good is Jesus Christ
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Post by valsa on Sept 28, 2009 10:29:53 GMT -5
valsa the reason why i had stayed is for love. Ever since the first day i met her i was head over heals. all the times she has cheated, and there were many, she would manipulate me to get her back. Talking about how rough it is to be on her own and how she is doing without this and that. etc..... And it seems like every time i was ready to move on she would be right over trying to get me back. No offense Nautical, but I find your “I loved her from the first day I met her” thing to be supremely creepy since, from your own posts, you revealed that you “were together” with your wife since she was 10/11 and you were 15/16. Also, I don’t appreciate that you seem to think that going back to her, of your own choosing, is somehow her doing. You chose to give into her manipulation- you. valsa although it may seem the ticket to a happy life is atheism, The big picture is not this life but eternity. The ticket to an eternal life of good is Jesus Christ Except I know this life exists and you have no proof of your “eternity”, nor that your god and religion are the correct ones to go to the right place in “eternity”, even if it did exist. |
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Post by nautical999 on Sept 28, 2009 10:38:11 GMT -5
valsa
Thinking really hard here hold on
I went in the army in 1994 so i met her in 1993 and it was in probably November of that year we got together. So she was fifteen and i was seventeen. So it would be sixteen years this year not seventeen.
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