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Post by Amaranth on Oct 4, 2009 20:52:20 GMT -5
You know, I'm unsure if Nautical's paradigm allows for people actually having any distinguishing personality characteristics that are their own at all, or if it's all just either submission to god/blessings from god or demonic control. So, you know, even joking, that may be exactly what he thinks. That's depressing. I wonder if my years of music are the results of a demon. I wonder if Ibbles being a complete dick also comes down to a demon. I jsut thought he was a stalker in training.... |
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Post by ironbite on Oct 4, 2009 21:02:55 GMT -5
Demons wish they could claim my dickedness
Ironbite-only person to say "Fuck you" to both God and Satan and live to tell about it.
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Post by Amaranth on Oct 4, 2009 21:13:17 GMT -5
Demons wish they could claim my dickedness Ironbite-only person to say "Fuck you" to both God and Satan and live to tell about it. Yeah, like either of them would waste their time on you.... |
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Post by nautical999 on Oct 4, 2009 22:18:33 GMT -5
lonelocust
well lets start with saying you will not like what i write here but oh well, Just like always i write what i am supposed to write not what people want to hear. Just like you holding to your beliefs i hold to mine.
There are many mistakes that parents do and three of them are lying to there children about Santa Clause, lying about the easter bunny and lying about the tooth fairy. Once a child gets old enough to realise that there parents have been lying to them and then the parents try to tell them about the power of Jesus Christ and how he has come to save us and to heal us from our infirmities they feel that mom and dad lied about all this other so Jesus must be a lie as well. theres no way that he could be real. This gets passed down and passed down so much that many just don't believe any more. The easter eggs are the devils lies about the easter bunny trying to change a day to honor Jesus Christ into getting candy and waiting on the bunny to hide the eggs. This day is about Jesus. Jesus is the pearl and when you put Him into the Easter story as well it defeats the devil and those who try to hunt down and destroy this message for all. That is why the demons were hunting down theses pearls.
The dream of you and your brother escaping something and trying to get through the portal is something deeper. Is there a time in your life that reflects a struggle with your brother that he was there 100% for you or that he had let you down and wasn't there when he should have been. This will be something major to you not just that he didn't tie your shoe and you fell.
The blue room is a room of magic There is either with you or in your ancestry ritualistic magic, satanic magic, tribal rituals, tribal magic, maybe voodoo. The dream of the voice over and the dream of knitting denotes a spiritual programming that may be ancestral but is tied to the blue room i believe.
As far as the warfare against the demons and the secret club this is the part where you will probably cuss me out but oh well this is what i see. I see a strong Christian part inside you doing battle for you and the others inside. She is your protector and trying the best she can to keep you safe. But you in this battle too but against her. you are adding to the crud she has to deal with. As far as the water that needs to be crossed and the magic tree. this is not the tree you need if it has thorns. If it takes magic to get somewhere then it is not a place to go. This is tied in with the evil that holds you there.
Now as much as Lonelocust will hate this i speak to the protector and say this God has heard your cries. He sees your heart and your love for all will not be unnoticed. You my child are strong in the Lord and through you many will be healed. It is you i speak to and say this as well. there is a fountain it is made of stone and the water that is in it is from the throne of God. Take the children if there are any there and all who will go. This will heal them and you will see a difference. This water will defeat the enemy as well and all bad things inside. I wish i could do more. If you allow me i will. But it will take you coming out and seeking the help that the host will not ask for or thinks she needs. Even if you have to hide coming out go to our site and read there there is a lot of things that will help you in this battle. And maybe someday the host will fight with you as well. I'm sorry it took 453 posts on this thread to get to you but you held it out thank you. I knew there was something good going to happen from this. I am so glad it was with you. God Bless. And may your journey be short to complete healing. Your friend in Christ, Captain
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Post by nautical999 on Oct 4, 2009 22:21:31 GMT -5
deadpandoubter
Tell me about the cousin in real life. Is there something you guys did together that was wrong? Was there a blood tie between the two of you? Did you ever swear an oath to each other or anything like that?
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Post by Amaranth on Oct 4, 2009 22:21:44 GMT -5
Can someone sum up that wall o'tl;dr for me?
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Post by m52nickerson on Oct 4, 2009 22:34:48 GMT -5
Can someone sum up that wall o'tl;dr for me? Demons are the cause of all lonelocust's problems existent or not, and that includes Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny. Nautical talked to God who told him that he will heal to lonelocust if she follows him like a good little peon. |
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Post by ironbite on Oct 5, 2009 0:02:28 GMT -5
....what the hell did you say there Nautical?
Ironbite-honestly...that made no sense at all.
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Post by Thejebusfire on Oct 5, 2009 0:48:14 GMT -5
I don't recall my parents "lying" to me about the tooth fairy. Part of that could be do to the fact that when I was little my parents were too poor to lie about it anyway. What kid would believe that the tooth fairy was too poor to give them a buck fifty?
And they didn't lie to me about the Easter bunny or Santa either. They read the books about them, and we watched the little programs, but that was just about it.
Now I'm suddenly reminded of that scene from South Park, when Cartmen's mother just told him that the Tooth Fairy was made up.
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Post by Rime on Oct 5, 2009 4:56:33 GMT -5
Because we all know that Christianity preceded pagan fertility rituals/solstice feasts.
How could I not have seen that before?
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Post by lonelocust on Oct 5, 2009 4:58:58 GMT -5
lonelocust well lets start with saying you will not like what i write here but oh well, Just like always i write what i am supposed to write not what people want to hear. I don't like it because it makes me sad to see people who advocate such a narrow and life-denying worldview. Very sad. No. Once again, I am not "holding to my beliefs." What I think to be true is based on available evidence, not willpower or resolve. A) What the crap does that have to do with my dreams? B) My parents never told me that Santa Clause, the Easter Bunny, or the Tooth Fairy were real. For that explicit reason, actually. I got explicitely "We pretend they're real because it's fun." Oh, and I "got saved" when I was 7. Failure again. But you know, I did in fact get saved when I was at the age that I would have probably believed in Santa Clause, et. al. if someone had tried to make me, because believing in fundamentalist Christianity requires that childish mindset or a deliberate facsimile thereof. A) It went in the opposite direction, actually. Easter was a Germanic pagan fertility-related holiday, with the eggs and bunnies already in the mix. The resurrection of Christ was superimposed on it to get the people celebrating eggs and bunnies to get in on the hot hot Jesus action. B) Uhm, but again, what exactly on earth does this have to do with my dreams? My brother and I have been pretty close for our arguably-adult lives. I objected to him pretending he was still a fundie to keep getting money from my parents, and he thought I was being silly to not, because it was an easy thing to do for removing financial hardships. That's about the worst, but we've mostly been there for each other. Ehrm, actually, it was a physical visible place that I lived in for a year. I even painted it and hung curtains and put a painting on the closet door. (That would be a real, physical closet that I kept my clothes in.) It was a pretty cobalt blue; it matched my hair. Heavens to betsy! Not the fact that I've knitted as a hobby since I was 8 years old or so, and enjoy knitting? And did so for like 18 years before I lived in the blue room? K then. Do you really think I'm *angry* at you? I do cuss when the sentence structure calls for it. For fuck's sake. ;-) Ah, you know, that's an extremely novel way of getting around the question of whether a "true believer" can become a non-believer without having to call into doubt the supposed salvation of everyone who thinks they have it. The real True Christian part becomes a dissociated identity that the evil atheist doesn't know about! It's almost elegant. Seriously, you are projecting hate and anger onto me. While it does make me angry that you keep people who have real problems from getting real help with your harmful and emotionally abusive religious beliefs, it certainly doesn't make me angry to see your shennigans. I do hope you're having fun with yourself. Oh so now the alleged true christian dissociated personality might not want your help? And now you're declaring victory of having proven that I have some dissociated identity, because of a dream I told you that seems like a bad knockof of Hellboy. Tell me something, and be honest: will you cite this as evidence of having "revealed an alternate personality" when you're trying to back up your claims of being able to do that. Is this as strong as the evidence for dissociated identities that you have claimed in other posts, where you "revealed" someone's alternates? *sigh* *facepalm* *headdesk* *Bigby's Crushing Hilarity* |
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Post by Vypernight on Oct 5, 2009 6:10:50 GMT -5
So if I want my kids to have demons, I need to 'lie' to them about Santa, the Easter Bunny (Well rabbit is our traditional Easter dinner), and the Tooth Fairy? While I'm at it, I'll also lie to them and tell them about elves, witches, virgins, and other mythical creatures.
And all those Christian parents out there who tell their kids about Santa are dooming them forever by somming demons. Nautical, you are either full of shit or a complete moron, and I have a feeling that a great many Christians, priests and otherwise, would agree.
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Post by nautical999 on Oct 5, 2009 6:48:10 GMT -5
lonelocust
you weren't near as harsh as i had figured. But as ai stated way back in the beginning, you are dissociative. And i think you already knew that. When you were seven was there another name yuou went by? maybe a nickname or something? This part could still carry the same name as you but sometimes they don't.
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Post by Amaranth on Oct 5, 2009 7:32:14 GMT -5
*sigh* *facepalm* *headdesk* *Bigby's Crushing Hilarity* D&D fan? *swoon* |
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Post by lonelocust on Oct 5, 2009 7:42:50 GMT -5
lonelocust you weren't near as harsh as i had figured. But as ai stated way back in the beginning, you are dissociative. And i think you already knew that. When you were seven was there another name yuou went by? maybe a nickname or something? This part could still carry the same name as you but sometimes they don't. No, no, no, and no. And what on earth in the beginning made you think I was dissociative even? I mean, the dream thing is incredibly tenuous, but it's perhaps less tenuous than "nothing at all". So let's go through that one more time. I am not dissociative. I know that I am not dissociative. In EVERY documented case of DID, it is caused by EXTREME and LONG-TERM abuse that essentially amounts to torture. No, I did not go by another name as a kid. I did not go by a nickname. I do not have any indications of DID or even any sort of more mild dissociative disorder. I'm sorry if you went through the sort of horror that causes DID and actually had it. I'm really, truly sorry. Trying to project DID onto everyone else in the world is not the way to cope with that, to convince yourself that what happened to you is actually OK, or even if not OK that it's normal. So, again, is this want you count as "success" in proving that someone is dissociative or identifying dissociated personalities? |
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