|
|
Post by ironbite on Oct 5, 2009 7:47:40 GMT -5
lonelocust you weren't near as harsh as i had figured. But as ai stated way back in the beginning, you are dissociative. And i think you already knew that. When you were seven was there another name yuou went by? maybe a nickname or something? This part could still carry the same name as you but sometimes they don't. So you saw one TV show about psychology and suddenly you're an expert in that feild as well as demonology? Ironbite-wow are you dumb. |
|
|
|
Post by m52nickerson on Oct 5, 2009 7:59:54 GMT -5
So you saw one TV show about psychology and suddenly you're an expert in that feild as well as demonology? Ironbite-wow are you dumb. Nautical is not a psychologist, but he did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night. |
|
|
|
Post by Amaranth on Oct 5, 2009 8:43:58 GMT -5
Nautical is not a psychologist, but he did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night. Actually, from the looks of things, he stayed at a Motel 6. And they left the light on for him. Anyway, I wonder if Nautical knows how dangerous it is to just go around diagnosing people with no real information. It could be seriously damaging. Especially if you are talking about someone with mental illness. This is why I use my knowledge of the inner workings of the human psyche for destructive purposes only. >.> |
|
|
|
Post by lonelocust on Oct 5, 2009 9:10:54 GMT -5
Yeah, I really worry for people who have problems and are vulnerable. Combine that with even a hint of the sorts of beliefs that Nautical has, and you could be looking at some really good extra fucking-up of unstable, vulnerable people's psyches.
|
|
|
|
Post by DeadpanDoubter on Oct 5, 2009 17:25:34 GMT -5
deadpandoubter Tell me about the cousin in real life. Is there something you guys did together that was wrong? Was there a blood tie between the two of you? Did you ever swear an oath to each other or anything like that? The cousin doesn't exist IRL, he only existed in my dream. O.o Sorry for the late reply, went to sleep and forgot about this thread. |
|
|
|
Post by valsa on Oct 5, 2009 22:05:08 GMT -5
From way back a couple pages ago-
Nautical, is there anybody who you don't think has DID or some similar demon-related issue?
You've talked to several people here, all who have experienced different traumas in life and have, for the most part, claimed to have gotten the fuck over it already, and you've said they are infested with demons and/or, in at least two of the cases (my own and lonelocust's), have tried to shoe-horn us into a "diagnosis" of DID. Seriously, it seems like to you, no one has ever gotten over any trauma from life, ever, and we're all just awaiting your magical healing penis ministrations.
THIS IS A DIRECT QUESTION, ANSWER IT!- What would you consider "proof" then, of someone who does NOT have DID and has made peace with any hardship they've come across in life?
|
|
|
|
Post by RavynousHunter on Oct 5, 2009 22:49:52 GMT -5
I'd be curious to know if there's any relationship between Dissociative Identity Disorder and Schizophrenia...
|
|
|
|
Post by lonelocust on Oct 6, 2009 0:41:47 GMT -5
I'd be curious to know if there's any relationship between Dissociative Identity Disorder and Schizophrenia... There isn't. The two have at times been conflated in popular culture, but they are different. I am unaware of any cases of anyone having both, but it may well be possible as schizophrenia shows strong inheritance tendencies, and dissociative identity disorder is associated with severe and extended trauma, so I can't see why in particular someone with a genetic tendency towards schizophrenia couldn't end up with DID. I actually asked a psych professor of mine that when I was in college as I was curious, and he said he wasn't sure, but that it seems that it would be possible. Schizophrenia has symptoms of (among other things) hallucinations and delusions. Delusions can relate to parts of ones identity - for example, someone might at one point think they are a secret agent, or the lost princess of a magic kingdom, or a God-chosen demon hunter - but they still essentially realize they are themselves. With DID there are multiple acting personalities. So if Mary Smith is schizophrenic and has a delusion that she's a secret agent, she always still knows she's Mary Smith, who her mother is, what her childhood was like, etc., but just think she's a secret agent. If Mary Smith has DID she might sometimes think she's Mary Smith, happy homemaker, sometimes think she's Mary Sue, slutty farmgirl who's never been to school, and sometimes think she's Mary Smith aka Natasha Borislavovich, SECRET AGENT. Or whatever. And there's weird stuff where sometimes one personality "watches" the others and has their memories, and the others don't know about it, or a nested siutation where Natasha knows about Mary and Mary Sue and Mary knows about Mary Sue, but Mary Sue doesn't know about the rest of them. It's very bizarre. I've only personally ever known one (former) sufferer of DID. He now after tons of therapy can remember all of his personalities' memories, including the parts where he couldn't remember what the others were up to, and including the torturous physical and sexual abuse that caused the dissociation (which essentially none of his ever-active personalities could remember when he was a kid). It's fascinating and horrifying. At least as far as he told me, he had the kid who got tortured and raped, the kid who was a quiet guy and went to school and was a good student (except when he couldn't remember at all a lesson or what he was doing that day the teacher said he skipped class when he knows he'd had perfect attendance), and the acting-out violent school-skipper. Maybe others, but those were the ones he told me about. |
|
|
|
Post by Rime on Oct 6, 2009 3:25:55 GMT -5
I think that Nautical is suffering from AID.
He associates everything with demons.
|
|
|
|
Post by Art Vandelay on Oct 6, 2009 3:37:56 GMT -5
Oh my god how'd I miss this! Oi nautical, if you're looking for demons, I'm probably loaded with the little fellas. I'll tell you what, if you can find any of them, I'll join you in your quest to remove all demons from the internet!
|
|
|
|
Post by nautical999 on Oct 6, 2009 18:09:17 GMT -5
lonelocust in the beginning i described to you what dissociative parts see inside. Rooms, people which in your case you say friends but more than likely in the cases i have been involved in the friends in the system are actually demons masquerading as friends. also in the system are demons and water. trees and all as well. these aren't just dreams that you are having they are part of the dissociation.
Dissociation can happen from more than just torture or extreme or long term abuse. it can happen whenever a child or adult can not handle the situation they are in. A lot of times in sexual abuse, abandonment by a parent, rejection by peers, physical abuse by parents or any number of things that do not constitute torture. I think the only thing that is documented are the worse cases. Others who deal good with it and have no idea that they have it do not seek help. I will tell you this though your depression stems from something more than just standing in the corner That depression is deep rooted and and the pain that it is from is tied to a dissociative part.
|
|
|
|
Post by nautical999 on Oct 6, 2009 18:20:19 GMT -5
valsa
a hint that someone has gotten over there issues is living without the depression that lonelocust is masking with medication
rh 00
in my experience there is a close resemblance with the two. however the schizophrenia has more demons attacking them than the DID in most cases that is.
lonelocust
one other thing about DID which was not there is that some parts are completely different in trade and behavior one could actually be a spy one a brick mason and another yet an electrician different jobs at different stages in there life.
|
|
|
|
Post by DeadpanDoubter on Oct 6, 2009 18:34:46 GMT -5
valsa a hint that someone has gotten over there issues is living without the depression that lonelocust is masking with medication Sooo...you're saying that depression can be 100% cured and you can get rid of it forever, not have to worry about relapse, and that medication does nothing but "mask" it. I know the rest of y'all are trying to be diplomatic, but godsdamn, nautical, you're a frickin' dumbass. |
|
|
|
Post by Amaranth on Oct 6, 2009 19:23:53 GMT -5
lonelocust in the beginning i described to you what dissociative parts see inside. Rooms, people which in your case you say friends but more than likely in the cases i have been involved in the friends in the system are actually demons masquerading as friends. also in the system are demons and water. trees and all as well. these aren't just dreams that you are having they are part of the dissociation. Dissociation can happen from more than just torture or extreme or long term abuse. it can happen whenever a child or adult can not handle the situation they are in. A lot of times in sexual abuse, abandonment by a parent, rejection by peers, physical abuse by parents or any number of things that do not constitute torture. I think the only thing that is documented are the worse cases. Others who deal good with it and have no idea that they have it do not seek help. I will tell you this though your depression stems from something more than just standing in the corner That depression is deep rooted and and the pain that it is from is tied to a dissociative part. Stop it. Just....Stop now. You're insulting anyone who has dealt with those conditions. You have no qualifications to make these diagnoses, and you have no right either. |
|
|
|
Post by ironbite on Oct 6, 2009 19:32:11 GMT -5
Honestly dude...you've made yourself a ton of enemies with that post. And not the ones in hell either.
Ironbite-there there's a few guys I know down there who can't wait for your ass to get there....road to hell is paved with good intentions after all.
|
|
