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Post by Undecided on Oct 10, 2009 22:58:24 GMT -5
Deadpandoubter The key to your healing is in your post to me. Your feelings of abandonment were natural. Being a scared little girl that mommy and daddy are sick and you will be all alone allowed the feelings of abandonment to come in. Mommy and daddy were sick and there whole life revolved around staying alive and sane enough to keep going. I'm sure you were yelled at for every little thing that you did even the little things. You didn't know how to get out the feeling and so you acted out because the pain was so much inside of you. You were not a demon but may have had a demon over emphasizing this pain and this demons name is probably abandonment. If he was there then then he is there now. And i can tell that he is because of the way talking about the age of twelve hurt you so much. I bet you still have abandonment problems thinking that thoughs close to you will die or leave or something else and you will be all alone. The way to get rid of this is forgiving your parents and asking God to take this abandonment problem from you. I can lead you through this if you would like. Nautical999, you made an assumption about Deadpandoubter—one that Deadpandoubter refuted. Your assumption turned out to be just plain wrong. In other words, you made an unsound assumption that was ultimately refuted by the available evidence. But then, I guess there's no point arguing with a wall, is there? *sigh* I think I'll go sulk in a corner now. |
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Post by nautical999 on Oct 10, 2009 22:58:44 GMT -5
read the bible the body soul and spirit are all three different. It has been refered to by many as the same but it isn't at all. Your spirit is what gets healed when you accept Christ and your sins are washed away. Your soul is what gets healed when you get emotional healing and the body is self explanatory I hope
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Post by nautical999 on Oct 10, 2009 23:01:56 GMT -5
dead pan wrote
So as far as I can remember, that's when I started believing (quite literally, in fact) that I had demons or at least one demon inside me; I was firmly convinced that no human could be so dark and evil and disgusting, and that I was in fact a demon sent to haunt and terrorize my family.
This isn't a statement made by the model child about her model parents
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Post by DeadpanDoubter on Oct 10, 2009 23:07:56 GMT -5
dead pan wrote So as far as I can remember, that's when I started believing (quite literally, in fact) that I had demons or at least one demon inside me; I was firmly convinced that no human could be so dark and evil and disgusting, and that I was in fact a demon sent to haunt and terrorize my family. This isn't a statement made by the model child about her model parents I wasn't a model kid, just wasn't a hellion and gave a crap about my brothers and whether they had food or not. Plus I liked to be told that I was a good big sister, so it was selfish too. Additionally, the reason why I thought I was "sent to haunt and terrorize my family" is because I blamed everything that happened on myself. I don't remember most of my rationalizations, but every bad thing that happened to my family was somehow my fault. My parents never said such a thing, and every time I said it aloud, they blinked at me and reassured me that the event or problem wasn't my fault, that it couldn't possibly be my fault. So. Again, I wasn't abandoned by them. Any thoughts of "they don't care boo hoo hoo" stemmed from typical pre-teen angst; the only reason that they didn't respond to my dark feelings was that I didn't let them know about them. |
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Post by Undecided on Oct 10, 2009 23:08:40 GMT -5
dead pan wrote So as far as I can remember, that's when I started believing (quite literally, in fact) that I had demons or at least one demon inside me; I was firmly convinced that no human could be so dark and evil and disgusting, and that I was in fact a demon sent to haunt and terrorize my family. This isn't a statement made by the model child about her model parents The last time I checked, the only person in this thread who knows deadpandoubter well enough to make deep assertions about her life is deadpandoubter herself. Also, it is possible to sympathise with a person regarding her hardships without resorting to making such sweeping generalisations about her childhood. But then, avoiding sweeping generalisations is not what fundies are well known for. |
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Post by lonelocust on Oct 11, 2009 6:45:42 GMT -5
Deadpandoubter The key to your healing is in your post to me. Your feelings of abandonment were natural. Being a scared little girl that mommy and daddy are sick and you will be all alone allowed the feelings of abandonment to come in. Mommy and daddy were sick and there whole life revolved around staying alive and sane enough to keep going. I'm sure you were yelled at for every little thing that you did even the little things. You didn't know how to get out the feeling and so you acted out because the pain was so much inside of you. You were not a demon but may have had a demon over emphasizing this pain and this demons name is probably abandonment. If he was there then then he is there now. And i can tell that he is because of the way talking about the age of twelve hurt you so much. I bet you still have abandonment problems thinking that thoughs close to you will die or leave or something else and you will be all alone. The way to get rid of this is forgiving your parents and asking God to take this abandonment problem from you. I can lead you through this if you would like. Amaranth the reason why you didn't get your healing is because those in the church that you went to were either not informed of your problems or did not know how to deal with it successfully. God is still there where you left Him. waiting for you to return.And Jesus Christ who died on the cross is ready to heal you. That is why he died to bring complete healing to all. body soul and spirit. I am struck by how much of what you do would be considered occult by even other fundamentalist Christians. The ritualism, secret names, and specifically the whole deal of "legal rights" given to demons is classically occultic from the modern Protestant point of view. Generally the extra-biblical nature of it would convince a whole lot of fundies (even the ones I've known who believe in demons controlling people) that you're the one dabbling with the demons. The additional rejection of the Priesthood of the Believer - a central tenant of Protestantism - is extremely stark. For those who don't know what I'm talking about, the point of this theological tenant is that no intercession between any Christian and God is necessary. This came up specifically as Protestantism distinguished itself from Catholicism, rejecting priests (preachers/pastors/whatevertheycallthem are technically "not priests") and exorcists and any other sort of intermediary between a believer and god was the point here (though some Catholic Lite denominations a la Anglican, Episcopal, Presbyterian went back to having priests because they're all "Whatever man, whatever"), and Nautical's assertions that various people actually being believers were not enough because their pastors did not have the (what anyone else would call "occult") knowledge to get rid of teh dem0ns is classic intercession. |
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Post by lonelocust on Oct 11, 2009 6:45:59 GMT -5
Deadpandoubter The key to your healing is in your post to me. Your feelings of abandonment were natural. Being a scared little girl that mommy and daddy are sick and you will be all alone allowed the feelings of abandonment to come in. Mommy and daddy were sick and there whole life revolved around staying alive and sane enough to keep going. I'm sure you were yelled at for every little thing that you did even the little things. You didn't know how to get out the feeling and so you acted out because the pain was so much inside of you. You were not a demon but may have had a demon over emphasizing this pain and this demons name is probably abandonment. If he was there then then he is there now. And i can tell that he is because of the way talking about the age of twelve hurt you so much. I bet you still have abandonment problems thinking that thoughs close to you will die or leave or something else and you will be all alone. The way to get rid of this is forgiving your parents and asking God to take this abandonment problem from you. I can lead you through this if you would like. Amaranth the reason why you didn't get your healing is because those in the church that you went to were either not informed of your problems or did not know how to deal with it successfully. God is still there where you left Him. waiting for you to return.And Jesus Christ who died on the cross is ready to heal you. That is why he died to bring complete healing to all. body soul and spirit. I am struck by how much of what you do would be considered occult by even other fundamentalist Christians. The ritualism, secret names, and specifically the whole deal of "legal rights" given to demons is classically occultic from the modern Protestant point of view. Generally the extra-biblical nature of it would convince a whole lot of fundies (even the ones I've known who believe in demons controlling people) that you're the one dabbling with the demons. The additional rejection of the Priesthood of the Believer - a central tenant of Protestantism - is extremely stark. For those who don't know what I'm talking about, the point of this theological tenant is that no intercession between any Christian and God is necessary. This came up specifically as Protestantism distinguished itself from Catholicism, rejecting priests (preachers/pastors/whatevertheycallthem are technically "not priests") and exorcists and any other sort of intermediary between a believer and god was the point here (though some Catholic Lite denominations a la Anglican, Episcopal, Presbyterian went back to having priests because they're all "Whatever man, whatever"), and Nautical's assertions that various people actually being believers were not enough because their pastors did not have the (what anyone else would call "occult") knowledge to get rid of teh dem0ns is classic intercession. |
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Post by lonelocust on Oct 11, 2009 6:47:38 GMT -5
ironbite and oh yeah get saved I applaud you for your first show of understanding of emotional context in words. Wow, that was almost a display of parody. |
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Post by lonelocust on Oct 11, 2009 6:52:00 GMT -5
Additionally, don't mind ironbite. Everyone agrees he's a jerk.
Though on the not-so-friendly side, everyone also agrees that you're utterly insane, and not in the fun way, and that you should probably be charged with crimes for all the harm you do to vulnerable people who want to believe your bullshit.
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Post by lonelocust on Oct 11, 2009 8:47:24 GMT -5
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Post by Amaranth on Oct 11, 2009 9:15:42 GMT -5
You have a demon inside you that makes you hate d30s, because they are awesome. The evil Polyhedral spawn of Satan! the reason why you didn't get your healing is because those in the church that you went to were either not informed of your problems or did not know how to deal with it successfully. God is still there where you left Him. waiting for you to return.And Jesus Christ who died on the cross is ready to heal you. That is why he died to bring complete healing to all. body soul and spirit. You're making this up as you go along, aren't you? I was saved once... by rock 'n' roll!For Lou reed loe the world so much, that he gave his only son..... |
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Post by RavynousHunter on Oct 11, 2009 14:04:01 GMT -5
read the bible the body soul and spirit are all three different. It has been refered to by many as the same but it isn't at all. Your spirit is what gets healed when you accept Christ and your sins are washed away. Your soul is what gets healed when you get emotional healing and the body is self explanatory I hope Wait...the only Christian denomination I know of that actually makes a discernment between soul and spirit is the Witnesses... Dear, sweet Cthulhu, please tell me you aren't a Witness. |
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Post by DeadpanDoubter on Oct 11, 2009 14:14:21 GMT -5
read the bible the body soul and spirit are all three different. It has been refered to by many as the same but it isn't at all. Your spirit is what gets healed when you accept Christ and your sins are washed away. Your soul is what gets healed when you get emotional healing and the body is self explanatory I hope Wait...the only Christian denomination I know of that actually makes a discernment between soul and spirit is the Witnesses... Dear, sweet Cthulhu, please tell me you aren't a Witness. Would ye truly be surprised? |
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Post by RavynousHunter on Oct 11, 2009 14:16:13 GMT -5
No, just pissed. They get enough bad press as it is...
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Post by A. Sapien on Oct 11, 2009 14:35:24 GMT -5
Nautical's not a Witness, I can assure you of that. For one they mentioned the Cross.
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