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Post by trike on Mar 15, 2009 11:21:02 GMT -5
Now, we all know that your average conspiracy theorist is no roxket scientist, but I found a thread on ATF that takes the cake for dumbest thing a conspiracy theorist has ever asked: Spearhead posting in the general conspiracy board www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread445883/pg1
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Post by schizophonic on Mar 15, 2009 11:38:04 GMT -5
Yeah, I've always hated how many numbers existed between -0 and +0.
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Post by Distind on Mar 15, 2009 11:46:16 GMT -5
Funny, the thing that's tripping him up is a common misconception, that AD is 'after death' which it isn't. It's some random latin I don't remember of the top of my head.
I still prefer BCE, and CE as it acknowledges the christian bias of the calendar setup we have. I mean it's not like there weren't ones before it and this is the only one.
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Post by Sigmaleph on Mar 15, 2009 11:57:14 GMT -5
Funny, the thing that's tripping him up is a common misconception, that AD is 'after death' which it isn't. It's some random latin I don't remember of the top of my head. Anno Domini, Year of our Lord. Also, THERE WAS NO YEAR ZERO! Sorry, touchy subject
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Post by schizophonic on Mar 15, 2009 12:04:50 GMT -5
Anno Domini, that's it. I couldn't remember it either.
But yeah, it's supposed to count from the birth of Jesus, not the crucifixion. Granted, the Gregorian calendar was just a guess anyway....
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Post by Julian on Mar 15, 2009 12:23:33 GMT -5
Funny, the thing that's tripping him up is a common misconception, that AD is 'after death' which it isn't. It's some random latin I don't remember of the top of my head. I still prefer BCE, and CE as it acknowledges the christian bias of the calendar setup we have. I mean it's not like there weren't ones before it and this is the only one. anno domini - year of our Lord.Ooops, didn't see the earlier post.
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Post by szaleniec on Mar 15, 2009 13:53:10 GMT -5
Funny, the thing that's tripping him up is a common misconception, that AD is 'after death' which it isn't. It's some random latin I don't remember of the top of my head. Anno Domini, Year of our Lord. Also, THERE WAS NO YEAR ZERO! Sorry, touchy subject This is why some people celebrated the millennium in 2000 (when we were officially told it was) and some in 2001 (when a lot of people realised it actually was).
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Post by schizophonic on Mar 15, 2009 14:07:23 GMT -5
Also, THERE WAS NO YEAR ZERO! Trent Reznor begs to differ. Sorry, couldn't resist.
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Post by CtraK on Mar 15, 2009 14:28:24 GMT -5
Also, THERE WAS NO YEAR ZERO! Trent Reznor begs to differ. Yes, but his arguments are purely propaganda and revisionism ( and he openly admits it), so I wouldn't heed anything he says.
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Post by tiado on Mar 15, 2009 19:55:56 GMT -5
Year Zero fail from that guy! Plus the whole BC/AD thing too. I prefer to use the designations of BCE/CE myself.
The only "Year Zero" I acknowledge is the Nine Inch Nails album.
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Post by schizophonic on Mar 15, 2009 20:09:38 GMT -5
Trent Reznor begs to differ. Yes, but his arguments are purely propaganda and revisionism ( and he openly admits it), so I wouldn't heed anything he says. You mean if I bow down before the one I serve, I won't get what I deserve?
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Post by Redhunter on Mar 16, 2009 2:03:20 GMT -5
Blame religion. I do.
They openly pushed "Before Christ" and "After Death" as real when it was impossible and wrong at worst and misleading or a trick question at best. At face value there was BC which led to the birth of christ, and then 32 years till AD...
My church never attempted to rectify it. Asking questions about it made people twitchy as if I were challenging the entire notion of christ's existence (now yes, at the time though i was not). They didn't know and/or didn't care to clear it up.
I suppose I should thank them though, since they didn't address the issue satisfactorily, I sought information elsewhere. It ultimately showed me that religion would (most often) rather allow me walk in a haze than to clarify or even address it. Their bottom line was that it all happened and jesus lived and all that, but we might not have the years exactly right, but hey! They wouldn't have called it "Before Christ" and "After Death" if that wasn't exactly what was meant! After all, that's what THEY had once been told! And why would the church mislead them?
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Post by Lady Renae on Mar 16, 2009 2:17:22 GMT -5
Religious institutions are politically based, that's why. End of story. Anything with that much emphasis on control and exclusion is about power, who has it and who doesn't and who isn't allowed to be part of it. Fuck them. All of them.
Now, that was religious INSTITUTIONS, so to anyone who says I'm ragging on faith as a concept, I say learn to read. Faith is not the same as religious institution. Religious institution is a governing system, and you all (should) know how I feel about those.
As to the OP, that guy needs a lesson in logic, but then if he actually knew how to use logic he wouldn't be a conspiracy theorist.
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Post by CtraK on Mar 16, 2009 6:57:49 GMT -5
Yes, but his arguments are purely propaganda and revisionism ( and he openly admits it), so I wouldn't heed anything he says. You mean if I bow down before the one I serve, I won't get what I deserve? Well it would appear that the real requirement is to wake up on the floor and start it up again (like it matters anymore). Then things (that are falling apart) will be just like you imagined.
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Post by Paradox on Mar 16, 2009 17:26:27 GMT -5
If it were up to me year zero (there would be a year zero in the Paradoxian calendar so that dates would make sense) would be in 1968. Thus year one would be 1969. Specifically, January 1, 1 AT would correspond to July 20, 1969 AD (or CE, whichever one you prefer), the date of the first moon landing. BT would be Before Tranquility, AT would be After Tranquility. If I ran the world.
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