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Post by Vene on Mar 26, 2009 18:01:09 GMT -5
Headache, fuck off. Seriously, fuck off. I'm surprised DV has the patience to actually try to have an intelligent conversation with you.
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Post by headache on Mar 26, 2009 19:03:36 GMT -5
Headache, fuck off. Seriously, fuck off. I'm surprised DV has the patience to actually try to have an intelligent conversation with you. I love you too... I just happen to see the issue from two sides. And nobody paid any attention to the train engineer nor to the stupidity of running on train tracks with ipod blasting so you can't hear. It's basically a suicide if you ask me. But go ahead and think that the poor dead guy is innocent as white snow when he really have to shoulder all responsibility. What the fuck is wrong with you people?
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Post by Sigmaleph on Mar 26, 2009 19:23:33 GMT -5
DV, I really don't know what to say. I'm sorry you have to endure all of this.
(((DV)))
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Post by MozMode on Mar 26, 2009 19:44:25 GMT -5
Oh wow I'm sorry.
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Post by m52nickerson on Mar 26, 2009 21:28:18 GMT -5
It's just that I get the feeling that we are to exonerate this young man for any responsibility for his own death, for the pain and suffering he inflicted upon the train engineer and his family and make up excuses for what he did. Exonerating him!? What the fuck are you taking about? He made a mistake, that many have made before, and paid the largest price he could and you want to try to place blame on him for the emotional distress of the engineer? Pardon me as a bask in you perfectness. Not that you have ever made a stupid mistake. At least this kids mistake he paid for, your mistakes we have to pay for by reading shit like this. Well congratulations. None for DV who knew the kid? That is what this is really about.
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Post by m52nickerson on Mar 26, 2009 21:32:28 GMT -5
Naive and simplistic? Maybe. That is the understatement of the year. Many people also expect to hear a 50-60 mph train coming. Just as people expect other not to peak ill of the dead. I don't know perhaps because the engineer is still breathing.
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Post by m52nickerson on Mar 26, 2009 21:47:27 GMT -5
Headache, fuck off. Seriously, fuck off. I'm surprised DV has the patience to actually try to have an intelligent conversation with you. I love you too... I just happen to see the issue from two sides. And nobody paid any attention to the train engineer nor to the stupidity of running on train tracks with ipod blasting so you can't hear. It's basically a suicide if you ask me. But go ahead and think that the poor dead guy is innocent as white snow when he really have to shoulder all responsibility. What the fuck is wrong with you people? See hear since I can't antiquity express my self hear. fstdt.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=fb&thread=445
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Post by xaria on Mar 26, 2009 21:57:50 GMT -5
im so sorry:(
condolances for the family, yourself and his friends.
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Post by ironbite on Mar 27, 2009 0:37:46 GMT -5
At least my post in regards to this senseless tradgedy was a joke. Well cept for the finding light part.
Ironbite-honestly, you sound alot like another poster on another board I go to....very mysterious.
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Post by Napoleon the Clown on Mar 27, 2009 1:33:13 GMT -5
Headache, fuck off. Seriously, fuck off. I'm surprised DV has the patience to actually try to have an intelligent conversation with you. I love you too... I just happen to see the issue from two sides. And nobody paid any attention to the train engineer nor to the stupidity of running on train tracks with ipod blasting so you can't hear. It's basically a suicide if you ask me. But go ahead and think that the poor dead guy is innocent as white snow when he really have to shoulder all responsibility. What the fuck is wrong with you people? What part of "Don't be a dick" don't you understand? Think the guy was a dumbass? Good for you! But there's a time and place. This thread is neither the time, nor the place. Considering others are expressing disgust at your behavior, I think I'm gonna need to don the mod-hat and tell you to stay the fuck out of this thread if all you're going to do is rub salt in the wounds of the person who just had someone they cared about die. I don't want to see another word about it outside Flame and Burn. Okay? This thread is a "Holy shit, someone I know died." "*condolences*" thread. Not a "Har har, this dumbass was a dumbass and died because he was a dumbass!" Noone asked you to call the guy a hero. Noone even asked for your input.
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Post by Redhunter on Mar 27, 2009 2:08:54 GMT -5
Headache, you said, "My empathy is not with family of the teen killed but with the train engineer who has to live the rest of his life with this horrible incident forever burned into his mind."
The second half is valid, that is a terrible thing for that engineer and all who had to deal immediately with the aftermath of this incident.
The sad thing is that you can't see your way to empathize with the family or friends of the man who died. Whether this man's death was preventable or not doesn't lessen the affects it has on his family members or fellow students or friends or co-workers or anyone who knew him in any capacity.
I recall the days following 9/11 and we came back to work. I was talking with a co-worker and friend and he was irritated that they had canceled work (with pay) the day before because he didn't have anything to do all day when he could've been working. He said, "What do I care about those people? I didn't know any of them." He couldn't find it in himself to have an ounce of empathy as he didn't have anything personal vested in their lives or deaths.
His comments completely changed how I felt about him from that day forward and we are no longer friends.
The fact that you would chose this time to bring up this subject and to treat this young mans death (which DV has a personal interest in) is nothing short of monstrous in its lack of compassion and sociopathetic behaviour. When you troll for reaction by diminishing a man's life; by reducing it to his final act instead of the sum of his actions and deeds in the way you have done on this thread reduces your time here to a pitiable waste of pixels.
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Post by headache on Mar 27, 2009 8:25:41 GMT -5
I'm sorry that I have problems with people applying for Darwin awards.
It's obvious I should have been balling my eyes out for the guy who had the idea that running on railroad tracks with music blasting is a great idea. This is exactly why the Darwin Awards were invented. Yes, it's sad for the young man's family and I understand their grief. That is not the problem. The problem is that everyone seems to think what he did was Ok and that it was "just and accident". The man, consciously and willfully, placed himself in a situation were he was killed. I'm sure none of you would have thought it was a good idea to go running in the middle of a freeway, but the railroad tracks, none of you have a problem with.
Call me cold, call me any name in the book you want, it just doesn't change the facts and what the man did, was an automatic entry into the Darwin Awards and all of you would have laughed and agreed with me if and only if, none of you actually knew the person. Now, because this person had been a student of one of you, all of you went Rapture Ready on me for stirring the pot with some reality. I actually find the hypocrisy displayed by most of you in this thread, disgusting. Every one of you would have agreed with me if none of you had known the man and this had only been an article posted by a random poster as an interesting post, but now, hypocrisy ensues. You are basically no better than the worst fundies.
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Post by m52nickerson on Mar 27, 2009 11:45:10 GMT -5
How do you not understand that thid thread is not about that. It is about the fact that a member of the boards knew the person that was killed. You said yourself we should feel bad for the Engineer and his family, but why not for a member who lost someone they knew.
Even if a random person had posted the same thing it would be know different. It is called compassion.
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Post by caretaker on Mar 27, 2009 12:22:58 GMT -5
I'm so sorry to hear about this, DV. You and Andrew's family and friends have my sincerest sympathies.
Headache, Nappy told you to stop posting in this thread. Stop trying to exonerate yourself at the last minute by going "oh no I totally unnerstan teh grief srsly!" because nobody is buying it. No one's tried to defend the deceased's actions (bar DV, I think?) and yes, it was a stupid mistake.
That doesn't render the bereavement any less deep or hurtful. So really - shut it.
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Post by dantesvirgil on Mar 27, 2009 12:45:39 GMT -5
He did a stupid thing. It doesn't make me cut off normal human feeling for the fact that he won't be around and alive anymore. I'm not defending anyone's choice to run on the tracks with their Ipod in. But I'll defend my right to grieve the loss of a person I knew, regardless of how he died.
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