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Post by Jodie on Mar 29, 2009 11:14:22 GMT -5
But, but... without a hood, how are you supposed to look all sexy and helpless over the engine to get guys to pull over begging to help with your car trouble? Show some leg. Or, of course, stand outside with a jack in one hand and a puzzled look on your face. Works every time. Standing by the side of the road with your shirt open/off also works too. |
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Post by schizophonic on Mar 29, 2009 11:36:42 GMT -5
Standing by the side of the road with your shirt open/off also works too. At the very least, it'll increase the chance of roadside assistance when the men start driving off the road. |
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Post by brendanjd on Mar 29, 2009 21:24:35 GMT -5
I find it hilarious that these people are bitching about people buy non-American cars on a device built in Asia, on the internet that was invented across the Pond, and are drinking coffee that was grown in South America.
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Post by ltfred on Mar 30, 2009 5:23:32 GMT -5
the internet that was invented across the Pond, I think that you'll find that the US government was largely responsible for the internet's start-up research costs until the 90s. In fact, correct me I'm wrong, DARPA scientists (the US millitary) actually invented and developed the concept. and are drinking coffee that was grown in South America. That is true. But I think Americans are pretty happy not to work ridiculously hard for almost no reward like South Americans. |
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Post by brendanjd on Mar 30, 2009 5:28:43 GMT -5
I thought it was a couple of Englishmen who started the idea, but the USA developed thew hardware for it.
Wahtever, my point still stands. These fucktards are hypocrties of the highest order.
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Post by JonathanE on Mar 30, 2009 5:56:35 GMT -5
Actually, "quality" has steadinly improved since the early '60's, if you count safety as a quality feature. By that I mean, unibody construction, disc brakes, improved suspensions, air bag technology and the like. These, for the most part, were innovated in North America for production cars. Sometimes, the automakers had to be dragged, kicking and screamin, other times they weren't. We can thank Ralph Nader for this, mostly.
American carmaker defficiencies, ie, poor materials (the Ford rust-bombs of the 70's are a good example), shoddy workmanship etc, often correspond with the shipping of the assembly jobs offshore. Whether that is a causitive relationship is an issue that does require exploration.
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Post by Death on Mar 30, 2009 6:03:37 GMT -5
Actually, "quality" has steadinly improved since the early '60's, if you count safety as a quality feature. By that I mean, unibody construction, disc brakes, improved suspensions, air bag technology and the like. These, for the most part, were innovated in North America for production cars. Sometimes, the automakers had to be dragged, kicking and screamin, other times they weren't. We can thank Ralph Nader for this, mostly. American carmaker defficiencies, ie, poor materials (the Ford rust-bombs of the 70's are a good example), shoddy workmanship etc, often correspond with the shipping of the assembly jobs offshore. Whether that is a causitive relationship is an issue that does require exploration. Most of those features were developed in europe, sometimes by a US subsidiary, sometimes by a completly non american company.  amazing but true!!!! |
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Post by JonathanE on Mar 30, 2009 6:06:03 GMT -5
Actually, "quality" has steadinly improved since the early '60's, if you count safety as a quality feature. By that I mean, unibody construction, disc brakes, improved suspensions, air bag technology and the like. These, for the most part, were innovated in North America for production cars. Sometimes, the automakers had to be dragged, kicking and screamin, other times they weren't. We can thank Ralph Nader for this, mostly. American carmaker defficiencies, ie, poor materials (the Ford rust-bombs of the 70's are a good example), shoddy workmanship etc, often correspond with the shipping of the assembly jobs offshore. Whether that is a causitive relationship is an issue that does require exploration. Most of those features were developed in europe, sometimes by a US subsidiary, sometimes by a completly non american company. amazing but true!!!! It is interesting to check the original patents, though. |
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Post by Death on Mar 30, 2009 6:12:50 GMT -5
Most of those features were developed in europe, sometimes by a US subsidiary, sometimes by a completly non american company. amazing but true!!!! It is interesting to check the original patents, though. It's really sad that the US car companies choose to make crap. The concept cars that I used to see were often really great and some even looked cool, great mileage too. there was this one lilac convertable, I could see myself in that one. ;drool: but as Sloan said, gotta keep the customer unsatisfied. |
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Post by JonathanE on Mar 30, 2009 6:14:36 GMT -5
As an aside, I see the the CEO of GM is stepping down. I wonder if that is part of Obama's automotive revitalization scheme. Obama's announcement today should prove interesting.
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Post by Distind on Mar 30, 2009 6:19:20 GMT -5
Actually, what we think of as "American cars" tend to be foreign made, and vice-versa. Companies like Ford and GM have factories in Mexico, while Toyota has a factory in Tennessee. Basically, if "American car" means, "car is assembled in America by Americans", then there really is no way of knowing whether a car of almost any major company is truly "American". Ding ding ding. I used to know which factory down south made my car, but it's most certainly not an american brand. Only problems I've had with it over almost two years now where self inflicted. |
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Post by Death on Mar 30, 2009 6:39:16 GMT -5
As an aside, I see the the CEO of GM is stepping down. I wonder if that is part of Obama's automotive revitalization scheme. Obama's announcement today should prove interesting. rofl Wagoner has never been anything but Lutz's puppet. Fuck, that place is so corrupt the mind boggles. |
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Post by mistermuncher on Mar 30, 2009 6:53:56 GMT -5
By that I mean, unibody construction, disc brakes, improved suspensions, air bag technology and the like. These, for the most part, were innovated in North America for production cars. Pretty much any improvement to cars you care to name debuted in the Mercedes S-Class. it's been said if you want to know what features your car will have in ten years time, look at the current S-Class. |
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Post by deliciousdemon on Mar 30, 2009 7:45:11 GMT -5
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Post by skyfire on Mar 30, 2009 8:18:05 GMT -5
Something I remembered.
Anyone ever hear of "re-badging?"
This is a situation to where one company makes a vehicle but another company sells it under their badge.
While it sometimes happens between fellow American car brands (such as the GMC Savannah and the Chevy Astro being the same thing), it just as often happens between an American car brand and a foreign one (such as the Dodge Ram 50 actually being made by Mitsubishi and occasionally having Mitsubishi logos on the keys).
So that makes it even harder to know where what was manufactured barring the window signs at the dealership.
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amazing but true!!!!
