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Post by Shane for Wax on Sept 17, 2011 2:05:55 GMT -5
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Post by MaybeNever on Sept 17, 2011 2:21:52 GMT -5
I'm not sure my sister would be okay with that.
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Post by Haseen on Sept 17, 2011 3:07:25 GMT -5
A general rule of thumb is that NOFX lyrics will make an awesome sign.
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Post by Jodie on Sept 17, 2011 6:24:42 GMT -5
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Post by kristine on Sept 17, 2011 11:51:19 GMT -5
 this says sooo much more than what is written on the sign... |
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Post by Armand Tanzarian on Sept 22, 2011 13:17:02 GMT -5
Sometimes the spoken word can be as powerful as the written one.  |
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Post by N. De Plume on Sept 22, 2011 13:25:14 GMT -5
Elizabeth Warren: Fuck yeah!
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queenofhearts
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Another atheist transgirl with too many opinions and not enough money
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Post by queenofhearts on Sept 22, 2011 20:02:20 GMT -5
Or as Rush Limbaugh said today "the asphalt to build that road was made by private enterprise, the gas was pulled out of the ground by private enterprise. Government did nothing. The social contract is a Marxist theory."
Oh the fail in that sentence
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Post by askold on Sept 22, 2011 23:52:49 GMT -5
Or as Rush Limbaugh said today "the asphalt to build that road was made by private enterprise, the gas was pulled out of the ground by private enterprise. Government did nothing. The social contract is a Marxist theory." Oh the fail in that sentence I'm pretty sure that the goverment paid the private companies to do those things. They would not have done any of those things and given them to public otherwise. I know you were sarcastic but this got me back into thinking what kind of place a libertarian/randian country would be. I'm thinking huge road tolls, or no roads at all (because building a road might help other people so its better to just buy all terrain vehicles.) |
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Post by ironbite on Sept 23, 2011 1:42:01 GMT -5
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Post by Thejebusfire on Sept 23, 2011 1:49:13 GMT -5
I want to see more billboards like that.
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Post by Armand Tanzarian on Sept 23, 2011 9:25:16 GMT -5
Or as Rush Limbaugh said today "the asphalt to build that road was made by private enterprise, the gas was pulled out of the ground by private enterprise. Government did nothing. The social contract is a Marxist theory." Oh the fail in that sentence I'm pretty sure that the goverment paid the private companies to do those things. They would not have done any of those things and given them to public otherwise. I know you were sarcastic but this got me back into thinking what kind of place a libertarian/randian country would be. I'm thinking huge road tolls, or no roads at all (because building a road might help other people so its better to just buy all terrain vehicles.) Rural areas would most likely be fucked out of a lot of services, since its probably not feasible for a private company to build a road, let alone a toll road, in a county of 10,000 people. Theoretically private companies could hire other private companies to pave roads, like for instance Idaho Corp, a potato manufacturer, could build roads to help carry the crop to Chicago. But it can, and has the incentive to, prevent others from using said road, especially other potato and crop companies. In other words there is no way any society can be nearly as efficient or successful without government without incurring significant costs. That's because government is supposed to handle certain things no company will or should ever touch, like roads or schools. One reason is that government can and should provide essential services that in the long run lose money, like road systems. But the other is simply that, absent the short-term profit motive that drives capitalism, some things like education become better. |
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Post by N. De Plume on Sept 23, 2011 9:34:12 GMT -5
But the other is simply that, absent the short-term profit motive that drives capitalism, some things like education become better. It always bothered me that the most capitalist of the capitalists always seem to only pay attention to the short term profits… |
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Post by Armand Tanzarian on Sept 23, 2011 12:13:35 GMT -5
But the other is simply that, absent the short-term profit motive that drives capitalism, some things like education become better. It always bothered me that the most capitalist of the capitalists always seem to only pay attention to the short term profits… Part of this is because the concept of risk and finance penalizes long-term decision-making and revenues earned several years from now. A stretch of highway takes years of planning and contruction to make it, and the time it takes for a project to go from proposal to reality discourages companies from doing big projects. Same goes for big things like water mains, electricity, or data connection cables. The situation is far more dire in today's America, where revenues have dropped and are in no position to return to pre-recession levels ever again. But performance bonuses are calculated based on certain key performance indicators like profit margins and revenue growth. So seeing that revenues aren't likely to grow, corporate execs do the next best thing and freeze wages as well as halt any major projects. As a result profit goes up (despite shitty revenues) and they get their million-dollar bonuses. So capitalism in that sense, when you allow for such conflict of interest to happen, will result in the kind of crumbling America described in Atlas Shrugged faster than any Jim Taggart ever will, especially if they decide large swaths of the country are not profitable enough to be fed, hired or developed. |
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Post by MaybeNever on Sept 23, 2011 16:22:35 GMT -5
Love the sentiment. Pity it appears to have been given the old shooperoo. especially if they decide large swaths of the country are not profitable enough to be fed, hired or developed. So basically like they already have? |
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