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Post by dakotabob on May 4, 2011 8:26:06 GMT -5
Shit, did I just miss something interesting?
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Post by wmdkitty on May 4, 2011 9:32:42 GMT -5
It wasn't all that interesting... but it has potential.
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Post by Admiral Lithp on May 4, 2011 11:46:31 GMT -5
What the Hell? I'm gone for a day or 2 & a fucking Multi-Board Festival of Fail erupts?
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Post by rookie on May 4, 2011 12:22:11 GMT -5
Pretty much, Lithp. Welcome back.
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Post by priestling on May 4, 2011 15:58:20 GMT -5
Welcome back, Lithp... you didn't miss much, I think.
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Post by davedan on May 4, 2011 17:38:34 GMT -5
Having read the comments on the other site I just want to say Chagen you're right you are a Douche and I do hate you. Cracker.
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Post by Admiral Lithp on May 4, 2011 18:01:07 GMT -5
You're such a nice person.
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Post by davedan on May 4, 2011 18:47:28 GMT -5
He's not going to read it anyway and fuck you too Lithp.
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Post by The_L on May 4, 2011 20:06:26 GMT -5
Chagen, kid, assuming you're going to remain in some sort of spiritual stasis from age 18 onward is, frankly, pretty damn stupid. Nobody can afford to remain stagnant. You HAVE to grow and change, whether it's as a Christian, an atheist, a Pagan, or something else.
Do you know how old I was when I decided on my current Path? 22. And I got there after 5 years of college, a miscarriage, several bouts of suicidal depression, and years of acting like nothing I did could ever come back to bite me in the ass (followed by utter shock every time they did invariably come back to bite me in the ass). You have a lot of growing up to do--and the thing about life is, you never stop growing up. No one here is the same person they were ten or even five years ago.
Tl;dr: Dont pigeonhole yourself into a narrow role at your age. You WILL change your mind about SOMETHING eventually, and it's usually something you thought was set in stone.
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Post by random on May 4, 2011 21:17:36 GMT -5
^ Too true.
-ahem- Hey everybody, immigrant from IJBM here! Um, I know Chagen can be really shortsighted and opinionated sometimes, but he really doesn't mean to be offensive. Please try not to be too cross with him/hurt by what he said. That being said, the whole "All anti-theists want the genocide of all theists and I know this despite never discussing the issue with one of them at length" thing is pretty lame, as is the fact that he Godwin'd in the first post. Sorry Chagen!
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Post by DeadpanDoubter on May 4, 2011 21:17:48 GMT -5
Chagen, kid, assuming you're going to remain in some sort of spiritual stasis from age 18 onward is, frankly, pretty damn stupid. Nobody can afford to remain stagnant. You HAVE to grow and change, whether it's as a Christian, an atheist, a Pagan, or something else. Do you know how old I was when I decided on my current Path? 22. And I got there after 5 years of college, a miscarriage, several bouts of suicidal depression, and years of acting like nothing I did could ever come back to bite me in the ass (followed by utter shock every time they did invariably come back to bite me in the ass). You have a lot of growing up to do--and the thing about life is, you never stop growing up. No one here is the same person they were ten or even five years ago. Tl;dr: Dont pigeonhole yourself into a narrow role at your age. You WILL change your mind about SOMETHING eventually, and it's usually something you thought was set in stone. *raises a hand* Just as a heads-up, I'm an evil evilutionist, atheistic, equalistic (smacking of feminism), pansexual/asexual, virgin, buzzcut, dumpy woman interested in the speech and hearing sciences. Now...5 years ago, I thought gay people were confusing close friendship for sexual attraction; 10 years ago, I was terrified of their eeeevil wiles, bewitching me into liking boobs. 5 years ago, I started doubting my mom's intentions in pulling me out of public school (they were age-appropriately telling us that having two daddies/mommies isn't a bad thing); 10 years ago, I thought she was perfectly justified. 5 years ago, I studied evolution for the first time and began wondering maybe, just maybe, if my Creationist parents were W-R-O-N-G; 10 years ago, I held hostility toward all atheists, "evilutionists", and the 'degrading' idea that I'm descended from MONKEYS. Hell, not 3 years ago I swore I'd have NOTHING to do with ANYTHING even vaguely smacking of any sort of religion because I'd been burned badly by my former belief system; now I'm exploring personal ceremonies and practices that have religious roots, Pagan or otherwise. Earlier this day, in fact, my therapy group held a farewell rock ceremony for me; it's a tradition for departing members to receive and keep the rock after it's passed around and held by those telling zir how zie is experienced by the remaining members of the group. 3 years ago, I would've refused to participate at all, and probably would've left the room before it could be done. And I think of myself as a VERY stubborn, pig-headed, resistant-to-change type of person, so. Yeah. Oh, and...heh. Miles, don't worry about overshare; they haven't yelled at me (yet). |
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Post by Miles, The Slightly Off on May 4, 2011 21:28:13 GMT -5
But if I don't worry about overshare, people will start giggling at my secrets!
They already know that I wear women's underwear due to a shopping accident by my mother!
I feel like a flustered Animal Crossing character who's doing the potty dance...
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Post by chagen on May 4, 2011 22:54:04 GMT -5
Hello everyone.
-takes really deep breath-
I've always been bad at starting things.
I admit that this thread was in poor taste. In fact, it was absolutely stupid of me to even think this was a good idea. I understand that much.
The real problem here is that I quite often see anti-theists who reach the level I described. One only needs to look at the main site of FSTDT to see the worst of irreligion. With such a vile pit of anti-theism so close by, it is almost not surprising to see why I raged that hard.
Almost.
I'm deeply sorry for any trouble this may have caused. I have been thrust into the wider world perhaps too quickly. Just 4 months ago, I was but an ignorant kid, who knew nothing. There was religious people and atheists. Now, I see the wider world, a world filled with all kinds of stances on religion and other things. I have been slow to adjust. I still am bewildered at the sheer amount of opinions related to almost anything. The sheer scope of it is beyond my teenage mind to comprehend.
In any case, the statement "I think the world would be better off without religion" seems disturbing to me on principle. Very Utopian. It verges dangerously close to "get rid of religion at all costs".
Ah, you say--that is a Slippery Slope fallacy!
Yes, it is. But I still hold onto the last vestiges of stereotyping--it seems to fit, therefore my mind latches onto it with force.
But no matter how much I ponder on it, it seems to always come back to that conclusion. I can never agree with anti-theism; it opposes my beliefs completely.
But the vagaries of life flow on. I feel that I did this board a great disservice by making this thread. I'm not sure what else to really say about this.
-Чагэн
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Post by Chi Shiro on May 4, 2011 23:06:01 GMT -5
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Post by MiriamM on May 4, 2011 23:16:35 GMT -5
In any case, the statement "I think the world would be better off without religion" seems disturbing to me on principle. Very Utopian. It verges dangerously close to "get rid of religion at all costs". Every christian would probably think that the world would be better off if everyone was a christian. |
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