chagen
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Post by chagen on May 26, 2011 23:46:41 GMT -5
So it appears that conservatives aren't allowed here, after all. [CITATION_NEEDED] It is. You only have a limited amount of time to spend with others. To divide that up between multiple "lovers" is a wasteful allocation of resources, when said time could be used for your own personal benefit and gain. I have a very pragmatic view on life. One must be as efficient as possible. Okay, fine. Vene, Oriet, and I. 9 years with Oriet and I, 2 with Vene, and 3 long distance between my girlfriend and I. You are probably assuming that the lovers are not sharing the same home. If they are, the whole 'limited time' argument is rather moot. Oh, and why the scare-quotes around lovers? My definition of a relationship is living together. Or, at the very least, planning to eventually live together. And the scare-quotes are because I am hesitant to acknowledge polyamoury as a real form of love.
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Post by ironbite on May 26, 2011 23:48:37 GMT -5
Once again, you show up and don't give us a citation for your original bull. I'm going to go ahead and file you under "dumbass".
Ironbite-it's also the file where Skyfire and aboveathletics live. Enjoy!
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Post by John E on May 26, 2011 23:55:00 GMT -5
And the scare-quotes are because I am hesitant to acknowledge polyamoury as a real form of love. Now I'm not a big fan of polyamory myself (it's not for me, anyway), but it's awfully closed minded (not to mention hurtful) to assume that someone else's relationships aren't "real love" just because they're different than yours.
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Post by Napoleon the Clown on May 26, 2011 23:59:39 GMT -5
Okay, fine. Vene, Oriet, and I. 9 years with Oriet and I, 2 with Vene, and 3 long distance between my girlfriend and I. You are probably assuming that the lovers are not sharing the same home. If they are, the whole 'limited time' argument is rather moot. Oh, and why the scare-quotes around lovers? My definition of a relationship is living together. Or, at the very least, planning to eventually live together. And the scare-quotes are because I am hesitant to acknowledge polyamoury as a real form of love. Considering your age, I doubt you even know what love is yet. It takes more than 15 years on this Earth to figure shit out.
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Post by Rime on May 27, 2011 0:24:23 GMT -5
No one mentioned Muslim families?
Granted, I have a certain level of trouble with the treatment of women in these arrangements mostly due to archaic tradition, but there are many examples of this in other parts of the world that do not have the same horror stories as the conservative Christian™ like to cherry pick to attempt to show that it doesn't work.
Personally, I'm fine with one woman. And if the children aren't part of an abusive family, I have no concerns.
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Post by DeadpanDoubter on May 27, 2011 0:39:04 GMT -5
My definition of a relationship is living together. Or, at the very least, planning to eventually live together. And the scare-quotes are because I am hesitant to acknowledge polyamoury as a real form of love. Considering your age, I doubt you even know what love is yet. It takes more than 15 years on this Earth to figure shit out. How many years does it take, anyway? I keep trying to figure it out and just can't. I mean, like, I can easily see myself living with my best friend for the rest of my life, pursuing my career while she pursues hers, and, if either of us adopted or she had a kid, being a parent with her, but I don't have romantic feelings for her, and I haven't ever had them for anyone. I would sooner die than have to live without her, but I feel the same way about some of my family members. How much longer do I have to wait until I understand, goddammit?!
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Post by Shane for Wax on May 27, 2011 0:41:42 GMT -5
I keep flashing back to my Anthropology book The Trobrianders of Papua New Guinea.
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Post by MaybeNever on May 27, 2011 0:42:56 GMT -5
It takes more than 15 years on this Earth to figure shit out. I concur, but unfortunately it typically takes more than fifteen years to figure out that it takes more than fifteen years to figure shit out. Hell, every few years I look back a few years and am astonished at how idiotic I was a few years ago.
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Post by Bluefinger on May 27, 2011 1:45:22 GMT -5
So it appears that conservatives aren't allowed here, after all. [CITATION_NEEDED] It is. You only have a limited amount of time to spend with others. To divide that up between multiple "lovers" is a wasteful allocation of resources, when said time could be used for your own personal benefit and gain. I have a very pragmatic view on life. One must be as efficient as possible. Umm, your argument falls apart when applied to families with more than one child. I have two younger siblings. My parents still were able to provide care and attention to all of us. Three kids still got the same amount of love and care. You'll generally see the same for any other family. Also, resources doesn't have to be materialistic, and seeking efficiency even in relationships is rather dehumanising. Just because the topic of discussion is polyamory does not suddenly make the whole thing different. The dynamics of the relationships are different, but the emotional side is not. Love already takes many forms, why is this form of it not legitimate?
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Post by Admiral Lithp on May 27, 2011 2:10:25 GMT -5
Well, that just makes it sound like something special.
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Post by Magnizeal on May 27, 2011 2:29:13 GMT -5
Okay, fine. Vene, Oriet, and I. 9 years with Oriet and I, 2 with Vene, and 3 long distance between my girlfriend and I. You are probably assuming that the lovers are not sharing the same home. If they are, the whole 'limited time' argument is rather moot. Oh, and why the scare-quotes around lovers? My definition of a relationship is living together. Or, at the very least, planning to eventually live together. And the scare-quotes are because I am hesitant to acknowledge polyamoury as a real form of love. Well if you're living together, then spending time with lovers is really quite easy. I spend all day with two of mine, and most of the day with the third online. Until you define love, I think I'm going to ignore your thoughts on how easy, or hard, it is to love more than one person. It's either that, or I get pissed as all pit over being told I don't really love my mates, and I really don't feel like being pissed off. Also, poly and Christianity? Very easy to reconcile. Just as a side note.
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Post by Runa on May 27, 2011 2:34:13 GMT -5
Who fucking cares how people live so long as they are all consenting, happy and healthy?
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Post by Dragon Zachski on May 27, 2011 2:34:31 GMT -5
You can actually "know" what love is like at a younger age than 15, but you won't KNOW what it's like until it actually smacks you in the face a few times.
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Post by Shane for Wax on May 27, 2011 4:02:31 GMT -5
I thought Christianity was all about the poly-ness in the Bible.
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Post by wmdkitty on May 27, 2011 5:25:21 GMT -5
If it was, multi-child households would be horrible places, and there'd be no such thing as unarmed family reunions. Hell, we barely have unarmed family reunions as it is...
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