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Post by wmdkitty on May 9, 2011 23:11:41 GMT -5
It's sickening how many people on both articles are defending Tyler simply because he regrets the abortion. If you don't regret your abortion, there is something wrong with you. A decision like that is always made with regret. I can't believe you just went there. I won't say anything further, suffice to say, your statement has pushed my Berserk Button. |
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Post by sylvana on May 10, 2011 0:50:42 GMT -5
If you don't regret your abortion, there is something wrong with you. A decision like that is always made with regret. I can't believe you just went there. I won't say anything further, suffice to say, your statement has pushed my Berserk Button. A decision that is completely irreversible, life changing, and has a huge emotional impact on both you and your partner. All large scale, life changing decisions are made with some regrets, even if the final decision is the best for all concerned. |
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Post by wmdkitty on May 10, 2011 0:53:24 GMT -5
I can't believe you just went there. I won't say anything further, suffice to say, your statement has pushed my Berserk Button. A decision that is completely irreversible, life changing, and has a huge emotional impact on both you and your partner. All large scale, life changing decisions are made with some regrets, even if the final decision is the best for all concerned. That is so wrong I don't even know where to begin. Nobody actually regrets having had an abortion. There may be a sense of "what if", but there is no regret. Try talking to, you know, actual women who've been there, instead of going for the whiny emotional "but you'll regret killing your baybeee" bullshit. Those who do regret it obviously made the wrong choice for themselves. |
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Post by dakotabob on May 10, 2011 4:40:48 GMT -5
I can't believe you just went there. I won't say anything further, suffice to say, your statement has pushed my Berserk Button. A decision that is completely irreversible, life changing, and has a huge emotional impact on both you and your partner. All large scale, life changing decisions are made with some regrets, even if the final decision is the best for all concerned. ....What? |
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Post by Chi Shiro on May 10, 2011 5:42:35 GMT -5
I can't believe you just went there. I won't say anything further, suffice to say, your statement has pushed my Berserk Button. A decision that is completely irreversible, life changing, and has a huge emotional impact on both you and your partner. All large scale, life changing decisions are made with some regrets, even if the final decision is the best for all concerned. Did this much bullshit just hurt you to spew? |
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Post by Smurfette Principle on May 10, 2011 5:49:22 GMT -5
GUYS GUYS GUYS.
Some people may regret having an abortion, because it is a life-changing decision with permanent consequences.
Some people may not regret it, because they have legitimate reasons for wanting that abortion, or they did it early enough that they weren't emotionally attached.
IT'S OK IF YOU DON'T REGRET HAVING AN ABORTION. YOU ARE NOT AN EVIL MONSTER FOR NOT REGRETTING IT. NOR ARE YOU SUCCUMBING TO FUNDYISM FOR REGRETTING IT.
CHILL.
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Post by Smurfette Principle on May 24, 2011 21:25:57 GMT -5
Update: Holcomb Speaks Out.Long before Holcomb met Tyler at 16, Holcomb had been in a tragic car accident that killed her brother and grandfather and injured her. Holcomb's mother was abandoned by her unfaithful father and her second marriage was to an alcoholic who was committed to a mental institution. All of which sheds some light on how it was that Holcomb was hanging out with a much-older friend whom she says encouraged her to seduce a rock star — and her mother signing away guardian rights to Tyler, a man in his late twenties who also happened to be a drug user. remember my surprise when Steven told me she had signed the papers and trying to take this in mentally. A sense of vulnerability came over me, knowing that I was his ward, but we were not married. He had not expressed his intentions of a long-term relationship with me. He had mentioned that he wanted guardianship papers so I could travel across state lines when he was on tour. I had told him my mother would not sign me over to him. I asked him how he had got her to do it. He said, "I told her I needed them for you to enroll in school." I felt abandoned by my mother as well as my father and stepfather. Steven was really my only hope at that point. I wanted children, and began to believe he must truly love me since he had made himself my guardian and was asking to have children with me. He threw my birth control pills off the balcony of the hotel where we were staying, into the street far below. "His guardianship of me complicated things further," she writes. "I was subordinate to him as in a parent relationship and felt I had little control over my life. I had trusted him and now was the moment of truth." By her account Tyler pressured her for over an hour to get an abortion anyway, at roughly five months, apparently a week within the limit at that time. Terrified about what her future would look like, Holcomb reluctantly acquiesced. In case this needs to be said: Being pro-choice also means standing against reproductive coercion, to any end, and Holcomb is unequivocal on her desire to have carried to term, even if her drug use would have almost certainly damaged her fetus. Indeed, Tyler has mostly expressed regret that there was an abortion, not that he treated his teenage girlfriend so badly. |
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Post by A Reasonable Rat on May 24, 2011 23:18:25 GMT -5
I am saddened by this. I hold to the belief that most people are generally good, just ignorant, misinformed, self-centered, and not terribly smart. ... But I think most people want to be good human beings and do the right thing. One of the saddest things about this is that I can still see how each person involved in this tragic story probably thought they were doing the right thing because they'd rationalized their moral doubts away.
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Post by Dragon Zachski on May 24, 2011 23:23:48 GMT -5
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He threw her pills off the balcony. Her birth control pills.
And then he tried to force her into having an abortion.
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Hi, can I have some spike-toed boots? There's an ass that needs kicking.
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Post by DeadpanDoubter on May 24, 2011 23:27:22 GMT -5
And THEN decided he was traumatized by the abortion.
I'm going to have to agree to disagree with you, Rat, because some people are pure filth.
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Post by Thejebusfire on May 24, 2011 23:28:06 GMT -5
Well, you got what you wanted Tyler, happy now?
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Post by dakotabob on May 25, 2011 3:24:43 GMT -5
What a big-mouthed fuckstick.
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