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Post by Jodie on Jul 5, 2011 16:09:55 GMT -5
I believe the idea was getting rid of the oppressive Taliban, which was believed to be supporting Al Queda.
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Post by HarleyThomas1002 on Jul 5, 2011 16:14:26 GMT -5
I suppose I wasn't too far off then.
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Post by booley on Jul 5, 2011 16:19:50 GMT -5
can you think of a better example of that observation the OP? |
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Post by booley on Jul 5, 2011 16:24:09 GMT -5
The aim is to stabilise the region. If you leave Afghanistan in the hands of the Taliban and warlords without attempting to promote stability, then you'll just get another bin Laden, and another, and another. Killing the figurehead without effecting change in the underlying society that produces the figureheads doesn't achieve much. OF course that leads to the question of whether having troops in afghanistan stabilizes it or just adds fuel to the fire. but that's another discussion. |
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Post by ironbite on Jul 5, 2011 16:25:48 GMT -5
There's something I could say here but I won't. I'll think it. But I won't say it.
But seriously, why the hell is this even relevant here? A soldier died. Big whoop. I'm sorry for his family's loss but he knew the risks when he signed up. Unless you're on a base somewhere in your home country, there's a very good possibility you're gonna die. No matter what your role is, if you're in a warzone, you're gonna have people trying to kill you. It's life. It's how it is.
Ironbite-mourn, go through the process, move on.
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Post by lighthorseman on Jul 5, 2011 17:05:04 GMT -5
The aim is to stabilise the region. If you leave Afghanistan in the hands of the Taliban and warlords without attempting to promote stability, then you'll just get another bin Laden, and another, and another. Killing the figurehead without effecting change in the underlying society that produces the figureheads doesn't achieve much. OF course that leads to the question of whether having troops in afghanistan stabilizes it or just adds fuel to the fire. but that's another discussion. Of course. |
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Post by lighthorseman on Jul 5, 2011 17:06:13 GMT -5
There's something I could say here but I won't. I'll think it. But I won't say it. But seriously, why the hell is this even relevant here? A soldier died. Big whoop. I'm sorry for his family's loss but he knew the risks when he signed up. Unless you're on a base somewhere in your home country, there's a very good possibility you're gonna die. No matter what your role is, if you're in a warzone, you're gonna have people trying to kill you. It's life. It's how it is. Ironbite-mourn, go through the process, move on. Don't contribute to my threads anymore, please. |
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Post by ironbite on Jul 5, 2011 17:09:16 GMT -5
Stop me.
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Post by Jodie on Jul 5, 2011 17:18:57 GMT -5
I do not personally know anyone who has died in Afghanistan, but it is hard not to be moved by the list of lives lost when you see it in total. It is especially hard when you believe that this military mission is, for the most part, a tragic waste of lives, like I do. icasualties.org/OEF/Nationality.aspx(56k beware) |
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Post by ironbite on Jul 5, 2011 17:21:33 GMT -5
Oh I'm the same way Jodie. I really am. I feel for anyone who dies in this misguided attempt to do something about a bad situation. But still...I can't get butthurt over one person's death.
Ironbite-there's too much death in the world for me to mourn just one. I must mourn them all.
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Post by malicious_bloke on Jul 5, 2011 17:32:53 GMT -5
there's too much death in the world for me to mourn just one. I must mourn them all. ...that leaves no time for anything else. People die all the fucking time. Either your mourning period is pointlessly short or you have no other function besides professional grieving. Personally, I don't give a shit about most people. The few people I think of as "mine" are the only ones that matter. |
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Post by ironbite on Jul 5, 2011 17:36:05 GMT -5
You'd be surprised how I mourn.
Ironbite-or how I can multi-task.
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Post by HarleyThomas1002 on Jul 5, 2011 17:47:13 GMT -5
can you think of a better example of that observation the OP? ...No. |
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Post by Ranger Joe on Jul 6, 2011 16:01:58 GMT -5
I'd make a comment about how stupid it is to take offense to one of a few in one nation's losses compared to the fuckton of civilians and losses of other nations...but that would just go in circles When it comes to soldiers? I care more about my mates dying than any other country's soldiers and other nations. It sort of comes with the territory of being in your country's military I guess. |
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Post by dasfuchs on Jul 6, 2011 21:26:26 GMT -5
I'd make a comment about how stupid it is to take offense to one of a few in one nation's losses compared to the fuckton of civilians and losses of other nations...but that would just go in circles When it comes to soldiers? I care more about my mates dying than any other country's soldiers and other nations. It sort of comes with the territory of being in your country's military I guess. Well, my point was someone finds a reason to hate something because a few of his soldiers died, like the hundreds of thousands of civilian and other countries' soldiers deaths weren't enough already |
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