Half of US social program recipients believe they

[Iczer-Four]

Jul 19, 2011 16:31:26 GMT -5 Damen said:

I love this little reply. It's not the first time I've seen it, it won't be the last, but I love it every time.

www.boingboing.net/2011/07/08/half-of-us-social-pr.html#comment-1158259

This morning I was awoken by my alarm clock powered by electricity generated by the public power monopoly regulated by the US Department of Energy. I then took a shower in the clean water provided by the municipal water supply. After that, I turned the TV to one of the FCC regulated channels to see what the National Weather Service of the National Oceanographic and Atmospheric Administration determined what the weather was going to be like using satellites designed, built, and launched by the National Aeronautics and Space Administration. I watched this while eating my breakfast of US Department of Agriculture inspected food and taking drugs which have been determined as safe by the Food and Drug Administration.

At the appropriate time as regulated by the US Congress and kept accurate by the National Institute of Standards and Technology and the US Naval Observatory, I get into my National Highway Traffic Safety Administration approved automobile and set out to work on the roads built by local, state, and federal Departments of Transportation, possibly stopping to purchase additional fuel of a quality level determined by the Environmental Protection agency, using legal tender issued by the Federal Reserve Bank. On the way out the door I deposit any mail I have to be sent out via the US Postal Service and drop the kids off at the public school.

After work, I drive my NHTSA car back home on the DOT roads, to a house which has not burned down in my absence because of the state and local building codes and Fire Marshal inspection, and which has not been plundered of all its valuables thanks to the local police department.

I then log onto the internet which was developed by the Defense Advanced Research Projects Administration and post on freerepublic.com and Fox News forums about how SOCIALISM in medicine is BAD because the Government can't do anything right.

[servo]

Jul 19, 2011 16:31:26 GMT -5 Damen said:

I love this little reply. It's not the first time I've seen it, it won't be the last, but I love it every time.

www.boingboing.net/2011/07/08/half-of-us-social-pr.html#comment-1158259

This morning I was awoken by my alarm clock powered by electricity generated by the public power monopoly regulated by the US Department of Energy. I then took a shower in the clean water provided by the municipal water supply. After that, I turned the TV to one of the FCC regulated channels to see what the National Weather Service of the National Oceanographic and Atmospheric Administration determined what the weather was going to be like using satellites designed, built, and launched by the National Aeronautics and Space Administration. I watched this while eating my breakfast of US Department of Agriculture inspected food and taking drugs which have been determined as safe by the Food and Drug Administration.

At the appropriate time as regulated by the US Congress and kept accurate by the National Institute of Standards and Technology and the US Naval Observatory, I get into my National Highway Traffic Safety Administration approved automobile and set out to work on the roads built by local, state, and federal Departments of Transportation, possibly stopping to purchase additional fuel of a quality level determined by the Environmental Protection agency, using legal tender issued by the Federal Reserve Bank. On the way out the door I deposit any mail I have to be sent out via the US Postal Service and drop the kids off at the public school.

After work, I drive my NHTSA car back home on the DOT roads, to a house which has not burned down in my absence because of the state and local building codes and Fire Marshal inspection, and which has not been plundered of all its valuables thanks to the local police department.

I then log onto the internet which was developed by the Defense Advanced Research Projects Administration and post on freerepublic.com and Fox News forums about how SOCIALISM in medicine is BAD because the Government can't do anything right.

I remember trolling /g/ with that little anecdote. Good times, good times.

[Amaranth]

The best thing is, it predates social medicine and can therefore be adapted for pretty much anything.

Especially since it already has been.

Not that I'm knocking it, it makes me feel all tingly every time someone posts it.

[discoberry]

Jul 19, 2011 16:31:26 GMT -5 Damen said:

I love this little reply. It's not the first time I've seen it, it won't be the last, but I love it every time.

www.boingboing.net/2011/07/08/half-of-us-social-pr.html#comment-1158259

This morning I was awoken by my alarm clock powered by electricity generated by the public power monopoly regulated by the US Department of Energy. I then took a shower in the clean water provided by the municipal water supply. After that, I turned the TV to one of the FCC regulated channels to see what the National Weather Service of the National Oceanographic and Atmospheric Administration determined what the weather was going to be like using satellites designed, built, and launched by the National Aeronautics and Space Administration. I watched this while eating my breakfast of US Department of Agriculture inspected food and taking drugs which have been determined as safe by the Food and Drug Administration.

At the appropriate time as regulated by the US Congress and kept accurate by the National Institute of Standards and Technology and the US Naval Observatory, I get into my National Highway Traffic Safety Administration approved automobile and set out to work on the roads built by local, state, and federal Departments of Transportation, possibly stopping to purchase additional fuel of a quality level determined by the Environmental Protection agency, using legal tender issued by the Federal Reserve Bank. On the way out the door I deposit any mail I have to be sent out via the US Postal Service and drop the kids off at the public school.

After work, I drive my NHTSA car back home on the DOT roads, to a house which has not burned down in my absence because of the state and local building codes and Fire Marshal inspection, and which has not been plundered of all its valuables thanks to the local police department.

I then log onto the internet which was developed by the Defense Advanced Research Projects Administration and post on freerepublic.com and Fox News forums about how SOCIALISM in medicine is BAD because the Government can't do anything right.

Dave Foley speaks to the Tea Part in 1994

[Amaranth]

I loved it when Olbermann had Dave Foley on because of that.

[Dragon Zachski]

Jul 20, 2011 11:05:13 GMT -5 servo said:

Jul 19, 2011 16:31:26 GMT -5 Damen said:

I love this little reply. It's not the first time I've seen it, it won't be the last, but I love it every time.

www.boingboing.net/2011/07/08/half-of-us-social-pr.html#comment-1158259

I remember trolling /g/ with that little anecdote. Good times, good times.

Mind sharing?

[Passerby]

Jul 19, 2011 16:31:26 GMT -5 Damen said:

I love this little reply. It's not the first time I've seen it, it won't be the last, but I love it every time.

www.boingboing.net/2011/07/08/half-of-us-social-pr.html#comment-1158259

This morning I was awoken by my alarm clock powered by electricity generated by the public power monopoly regulated by the US Department of Energy. I then took a shower in the clean water provided by the municipal water supply. After that, I turned the TV to one of the FCC regulated channels to see what the National Weather Service of the National Oceanographic and Atmospheric Administration determined what the weather was going to be like using satellites designed, built, and launched by the National Aeronautics and Space Administration. I watched this while eating my breakfast of US Department of Agriculture inspected food and taking drugs which have been determined as safe by the Food and Drug Administration.

At the appropriate time as regulated by the US Congress and kept accurate by the National Institute of Standards and Technology and the US Naval Observatory, I get into my National Highway Traffic Safety Administration approved automobile and set out to work on the roads built by local, state, and federal Departments of Transportation, possibly stopping to purchase additional fuel of a quality level determined by the Environmental Protection agency, using legal tender issued by the Federal Reserve Bank. On the way out the door I deposit any mail I have to be sent out via the US Postal Service and drop the kids off at the public school.

After work, I drive my NHTSA car back home on the DOT roads, to a house which has not burned down in my absence because of the state and local building codes and Fire Marshal inspection, and which has not been plundered of all its valuables thanks to the local police department.

I then log onto the internet which was developed by the Defense Advanced Research Projects Administration and post on freerepublic.com and Fox News forums about how SOCIALISM in medicine is BAD because the Government can't do anything right.

Damn. I'm not topping that any time soon. Goes to show just how different the world looks when you know what political buzzwords actually mean.

[nickiknack]

Been on Medicaid, and when I was a baby, my parents were on food stamps for a little while, because my Dad was laid off, and mom only worked PT...the good news we weren't on it for very long. Also my Dad was on SSI at the end of his life for a couple months, afterall his insides were being eaten away by cancer, and couldn't do his job at the factory. I love Social programs...and thats my story.

[Vene]

I can't get on food stamps because they changed the rules and going back to college means I don't qualify.

[Dragon Zachski]

Jul 20, 2011 21:21:32 GMT -5 Vene said:

I can't get on food stamps because they changed the rules and going back to college means I don't qualify.

Which is ridiculously stupid.

"Hurduurrrrr? You're trying to get an education so that you can get a job so that you can afford get off welfare? Well then, you must obviously not need welfare anymore!"

[Shane for Wax]

Jul 21, 2011 0:51:35 GMT -5 Dragon Zachski said:

Jul 20, 2011 21:21:32 GMT -5 Vene said:

I can't get on food stamps because they changed the rules and going back to college means I don't qualify.

Which is ridiculously stupid.

"Hurduurrrrr? You're trying to get an education so that you can get a job so that you can afford get off welfare? Well then, you must obviously not need welfare anymore!"

It's just as stupid as the fact that the letter I got recently says that I cannot make any one purchase greater than a certain amount at one time or else the rest of my checks will be jerked away.

It's silly. People are always like 'get off the disability! Get off the welfare!' yet the government has laws in place where you can't bring yourself up out of the hole or try to without the rest of your aid being stripped away.

I know there are probably ways to do it but it is so complex and would take such a long time to do it in.

[Amaranth]

My mom got off welfare, but it really was DESPITE the government rather than because of it. They really do seem to want to punish people who take welfare money, rather than actually help them get off it and better themselves. With the years, more and more restrictions and punishments come out of the woodwork.

Not that I totally mind restrictions. When the Red Cross gave me money, they said the card could not be used for guns, booze or smokes. Seems fairly reasonable that emergency funding not be used to buy that stuff.

...Also seems kinda sad they feel the need to tell people they can't buy guns, because to me that implies there's people out there who have no homes, no food, and the clothes off their back going "I'ma get me a Beretta!"

Anyway, it's the way they make rules and the extremes to which they seem to go which bother e. The message is clear: Welfare is bad, and you're a bad person for needing welfare.

[Tenfold_Maquette]

Where I live, you can have a negative net income and still somehow be considered "too rich" to qualify for food stamps or other financial aid.

Yeah.

[Keiro]

Jul 21, 2011 7:23:29 GMT -5 Amaranth said:

My mom got off welfare, but it really was DESPITE the government rather than because of it. They really do seem to want to punish people who take welfare money, rather than actually help them get off it and better themselves. With the years, more and more restrictions and punishments come out of the woodwork.

Good to know it's possible.

And frankly, I agree. It seems entirely designed to keep people ON it, rather than helping people get OFF of it. ;

Jul 21, 2011 7:23:29 GMT -5 Amaranth said:

Not that I totally mind restrictions. When the Red Cross gave me money, they said the card could not be used for guns, booze or smokes. Seems fairly reasonable that emergency funding not be used to buy that stuff.

... Reasonable. Unless you need a gun for your safety.

Jul 21, 2011 7:23:29 GMT -5 Amaranth said:

...Also seems kinda sad they feel the need to tell people they can't buy guns, because to me that implies there's people out there who have no homes, no food, and the clothes off their back going "I'ma get me a Beretta!"

Yeah... again, see above.

Jul 21, 2011 7:23:29 GMT -5 Amaranth said:

Anyway, it's the way they make rules and the extremes to which they seem to go which bother e. The message is clear: Welfare is bad, and you're a bad person for needing welfare.

; My response to that?

The day a deaf person/blind/whatever can legitimately apply for a job and be considered at the same level as a full, normal hearing person with absolutely no disabilities of any sort, with the same set of experiences and/or skills... or for that matter, have absolutely no experience and be quite willing to learn on-the-job... and not be discriminated...

Is the day you can come to me and bitch about not finding a job. Or getting off of welfare.

I'm using this money to better myself. And the government may well fuck me over next month.

Edit: Otherwise, kindly fuck off. e.e

... Yes, I'm being rather snarky. Don't mind me, but what I say is true, in any case. :/

Apologies for the snark.

Edit: Oh, and while I remember and am conscious: Let's not get into a gun debate and whether you need it or not for safety.

Trust me, there're locations where you need it. Like where I am right now.

(San Luis Rio Colorado, Sonora, Mexico, alternatively known as San Luis, Arizona, in case you're wondering. And yes, I've got body armor and the like on back order. )

[Amaranth]

I have trouble imagining you're in a Red Cross situation and need a 9 mil more than the food and clothes the aid is intended for.

Also, please don't bring up the possibility a gun is needed and then ask people not to debate whether it is needed. That's rather assholish. Especially if you're a big enough asshole to say "don't do it," then make a deliberate statement such as you did.

In essence, don't ask people to be more mature than you. Don't bring up points of argument and then tell people not to argue them.

Though honestly, I believe my own statement is irrelevant to such an argument, since it does not argue whether you need it as personal defense so much as it argues whether you need it more than, say...Food. In a disaster.

It's just annoying to see someone go...It's necessary...BUT DON'T DEBATE IT!