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Post by DeadpanDoubter on Jul 21, 2011 9:42:09 GMT -5
I can't get on food stamps because they changed the rules and going back to college means I don't qualify. Is that where you have to be half-time or less, OR full-time with a 20 hr./week job or work study? Fuck...I'm probably not gonna get food stamps. |
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Post by Amaranth on Jul 21, 2011 9:45:05 GMT -5
I can't get on food stamps because they changed the rules and going back to college means I don't qualify. Is that where you have to be half-time or less, OR full-time with a 20 hr./week job or work study? Fuck...I'm probably not gonna get food stamps. You don't deserve to eat! >.< please don't kill me. Vermont's food stamp orgram, along with Medicaid and amny other social services, are much better than most of the country. Hey, Howard Dean had to do something right to keep me voting for him, even when he copped out on gays, |
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Post by Vene on Jul 21, 2011 9:56:05 GMT -5
I can't get on food stamps because they changed the rules and going back to college means I don't qualify. Is that where you have to be half-time or less, OR full-time with a 20 hr./week job or work study? Fuck...I'm probably not gonna get food stamps. Yes, exactly that. I'm not going half time, I've waited long enough. 20+ hours of working would interfere with classes and I didn't qualify for work study. |
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Post by DeadpanDoubter on Jul 21, 2011 10:21:06 GMT -5
Is that where you have to be half-time or less, OR full-time with a 20 hr./week job or work study? Fuck...I'm probably not gonna get food stamps. You don't deserve to eat! >.< please don't kill me. Vermont's food stamp orgram, along with Medicaid and amny other social services, are much better than most of the country. Hey, Howard Dean had to do something right to keep me voting for him, even when he copped out on gays, Maybe my state's laws are different than Vene's? 'cause I know someone who doesn't work AT ALL but goes to class full time and gets food stamps...ugh...*holds zir head* My migraine, it is coming back. Fuck you, Vermont. |
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Post by Vene on Jul 21, 2011 10:23:58 GMT -5
Food stamps is a federal program, state laws don't factor into it. But, different states do have different state aid programs and Vermont very well may have one that operates in a similar capacity to food stamps. Alternatively, the local culture could be less hostile towards those who try and get gov't aid and, as a whole, social workers there could be more inclined to actually help people find a program versus some states where they actively try to deny people.
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Post by Amaranth on Jul 21, 2011 10:48:22 GMT -5
You don't deserve to eat! >.< please don't kill me. Vermont's food stamp orgram, along with Medicaid and amny other social services, are much better than most of the country. Hey, Howard Dean had to do something right to keep me voting for him, even when he copped out on gays, Maybe my state's laws are different than Vene's? 'cause I know someone who doesn't work AT ALL but goes to class full time and gets food stamps...ugh...*holds zir head* My migraine, it is coming back. Fuck you, Vermont. What did Vermont ever do to you? Oh, right. Kept me alive. |
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Post by Amaranth on Jul 21, 2011 10:50:10 GMT -5
Food stamps is a federal program, state laws don't factor into it. But, different states do have different state aid programs and Vermont very well may have one that operates in a similar capacity to food stamps. Alternatively, the local culture could be less hostile towards those who try and get gov't aid and, as a whole, social workers there could be more inclined to actually help people find a program versus some states where they actively try to deny people. I get aid through they state that was called "Food Stamps" until last year, when it became "3SquaresVT" or something similar. I was actually unaware it was generally a federal thing, because I run solely through the state. Same people who cover my medical, in fact |
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Post by Keiro on Jul 21, 2011 10:54:19 GMT -5
I have trouble imagining you're in a Red Cross situation and need a 9 mil more than the food and clothes the aid is intended for. Also, please don't bring up the possibility a gun is needed and then ask people not to debate whether it is needed. That's rather assholish. Especially if you're a big enough asshole to say "don't do it," then make a deliberate statement such as you did.  Mostly because I posted one scenario where you, or at least I, and others here, that is, in person, know for a fact you NEED body armor and a gun to protect yourself. Dem there mexican cartels, yanno. That's why I said not to debate whether or not it is needed, because I made the modifier that it depends on the situation. In essence, don't ask people to be more mature than you. Don't bring up points of argument and then tell people not to argue them. Though honestly, I believe my own statement is irrelevant to such an argument, since it does not argue whether you need it as personal defense so much as it argues whether you need it more than, say...Food. In a disaster. It's just annoying to see someone go...It's necessary...BUT DON'T DEBATE IT! I know it is. And the other reason is that I didn't want to derail this thread. >_> We can debate all we want elsewhere. I'd just rather not do it in this thread. Also, I shoulda added that into the original edit. I wasn't thinking entirely clear, so... I'll take the blame for that. And really, if the Red Cross were to make those injunctions, I'd ignore it, depending on the location and the threat level. However, most programs these days tend to be stupidly designed to make it as hard as possible for anyone to get welfare. I'm just lucky that my SSI carried over when I reached adulthood because there's literally no way I'd have survived my years of being out on my own without it. Hell, I've been flat out told that food stamps in California were for women who were pregnant and/or single. I'll try again on that front later, as I need moar funds for foodage. |
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Post by Vene on Jul 21, 2011 11:39:11 GMT -5
Food stamps is a federal program, state laws don't factor into it. But, different states do have different state aid programs and Vermont very well may have one that operates in a similar capacity to food stamps. Alternatively, the local culture could be less hostile towards those who try and get gov't aid and, as a whole, social workers there could be more inclined to actually help people find a program versus some states where they actively try to deny people. I get aid through they state that was called "Food Stamps" until last year, when it became "3SquaresVT" or something similar. I was actually unaware it was generally a federal thing, because I run solely through the state. Same people who cover my medical, in fact It's up to the state the distribute the money and there is probably the new program in Vermont because of the changes for students (which are pretty recent). |
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Post by Amaranth on Jul 21, 2011 15:22:04 GMT -5
Mostly because I posted one scenario where you, or at least I, and others here, that is, in person, know for a fact you NEED body armor and a gun to protect yourself. Dem there mexican cartels, yanno. The NEED is still debatable. Simply saying "Living where I do is proof!" is NOT proof. That's bloody absurd. And it's STILL saying "I don't want to discuss it, but (point of discussion). Then don't bring it up. I'm not really interested in debating one of FSTDT's sacred cows, TBH. Every time I bring up my stance, I get WARGARBLED by someone distorting my argument, fundie style. It's not worth the headache. It's just incredibly annoying to see someone frame their argument with "but I don't want to start an argument." Good luck with that. Pretty sure you'd get nailed. At the very least, it's kind of an assholish thing to do, taking money from someone on conditions and then totally go back on the agreement. By someone official? Or by Joe Sixpack? Anyway, isn't there a program pretty much exactly to that extent? That could be the source of confusion. |
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Post by Amaranth on Jul 21, 2011 15:22:53 GMT -5
It's up to the state the distribute the money and there is probably the new program in Vermont because of the changes for students (which are pretty recent). Ah. Thanks for clarifying. |
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Post by Vene on Jul 21, 2011 15:55:04 GMT -5
Keiro, I can tell you that you were outright lied to about food stamps in California. Here are the requirements. You really can't judge a program based on somebody's lies about it. ETA: The program the person you were talking to was thinking of was probably WIC, which actually is designed for pregnant women and children. |
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Post by Dragon Zachski on Jul 21, 2011 17:24:58 GMT -5
IIRC, the lies were told to him by the food stamps office.
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Post by Amaranth on Jul 21, 2011 17:32:11 GMT -5
Keiro, I can tell you that you were outright lied to about food stamps in California. Here are the requirements. You really can't judge a program based on somebody's lies about it. ETA: The program the person you were talking to was thinking of was probably WIC, which actually is designed for pregnant women and children. WIC is what I was thinking of, too. Thought there was another letter in there. Like WINC or something. Couldn't think of what the N was for. |
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Post by DeadpanDoubter on Jul 21, 2011 17:34:40 GMT -5
I get aid through they state that was called "Food Stamps" until last year, when it became "3SquaresVT" or something similar. I was actually unaware it was generally a federal thing, because I run solely through the state. Same people who cover my medical, in fact It's up to the state the distribute the money and there is probably the new program in Vermont because of the changes for students (which are pretty recent). I've been trying to find out, but did current SNAP recipients get grandfathered in under those changes? 'cause I'm seriously confused by everything I'm reading (they did make changes that helped community college students, but the student I referred to in a prior post is a Bachelor student). Amaranth: Now that's not fair, you know I want you alive. ): |
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Mostly because I posted one scenario where you, or at least I, and others here, that is, in person, know for a fact you NEED body armor and a gun to protect yourself. Dem there mexican cartels, yanno.