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Post by caseagainstfaith on Jul 31, 2011 10:06:30 GMT -5
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Post by Amaranth on Jul 31, 2011 10:12:59 GMT -5
Is...Is McCain talking reason again?
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Post by Art Vandelay on Jul 31, 2011 10:14:22 GMT -5
Sounds to me like McCain is just saying "don't try to push stupid shit through until you have the numbers to actually succeed", not "don't pass stupid shit at all".
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Post by driewerf on Jul 31, 2011 11:54:05 GMT -5
Sounds to me like McCain is just saying "don't try to push stupid shit through until you have the numbers to actually succeed", not "don't pass stupid shit at all". I agree with Art vandelay. Key phrase is |
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Post by Amaranth on Jul 31, 2011 12:13:13 GMT -5
Sounds to me like McCain is just saying "don't try to push stupid shit through until you have the numbers to actually succeed", not "don't pass stupid shit at all". Still a major improvement from his recent attitude and behaviour. |
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Post by booley on Jul 31, 2011 14:42:56 GMT -5
... So it looks like even some republicans are finally saying enough is enough with the teabaggers. About time someone stood up to them and tried putting them in their place. OF course the rest of the GOP are just saying that McCain is really a Democrat. |
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Post by Mlle Antéchrist on Jul 31, 2011 15:07:22 GMT -5
Pretty much any Republican who occasionally makes sense ends up being labeled a so-called "RINO" at some point.
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Post by Amaranth on Jul 31, 2011 15:33:14 GMT -5
Pretty much any Republican who occasionally makes sense ends up being labeled a so-called "RINO" at some point. Anyone who disagrees with me is the enemy. |
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Post by Thejebusfire on Jul 31, 2011 15:39:54 GMT -5
Pretty much any Republican who occasionally makes sense ends up being labeled a so-called "RINO" at some point. It's because true republicans never disagree with the majority. |
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Post by booley on Jul 31, 2011 15:42:19 GMT -5
Pretty much any Republican who occasionally makes sense ends up being labeled a so-called "RINO" at some point. It's because true republicans never disagree with the majority. Except when they do and then it's because the majority are stupid welfare queens bought off by the Liberals. Or the polls are propaganda tools of the liberal establishment. Or something |
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Post by Dragon Zachski on Jul 31, 2011 15:58:36 GMT -5
Got tired of dancing their dance, eh McCain?
The way I see it, the "we don't have the numbers" was more of a cherry on top than the core of his message, like "This thing is stupid stupid stupid, and what's also stupid is believing that you can do this with these numbers"
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Post by ltfred on Jul 31, 2011 16:36:18 GMT -5
A balanced budget law would be a saboutage of effective policy, a promise of future long-term recession.
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Post by RavynousHunter on Jul 31, 2011 17:38:05 GMT -5
Wait a minute, wait a fucking minute...that was John McCain? And...he said something I agree with? Man, Satan must be pulling out the mittens and scarf right about now.
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Post by MaybeNever on Jul 31, 2011 18:50:33 GMT -5
Pretty much any Republican who occasionally makes sense ends up being labeled a so-called "RINO" at some point. In McCain's case, he's often taken a position I like (or at least don't hate) over the past ten years. Contrast this to most so-called RINOs who get the label because, say, they argue that individuals who want to donate to Planned Parenthood may only be worthy of being imprisoned, not beaten to death with lead pipes. McCain was a Presidential hopeful in 2000, presenting a highly respectable image especially compared to Bush, and while 2008 suggests that he would have lunged to the right if he'd won the nomination, I think the country would have been far better off with ol' John than with basically any other Republican candidate then or now. |
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Post by verasthebrujah on Jul 31, 2011 20:49:00 GMT -5
He's saying that a balanced budget amendment can't be part of this debate. He implied that he would support one, but is openly saying that the Republicans should stop holding out for it.
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