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Post by dantesvirgil on Jun 24, 2009 15:40:02 GMT -5
Which is why I get them for him. I take advantage of that, that's for sure. Anything that will keep a highly active eleven year old boy clean, no matter what he might secretly hope it does for him, is probably going to get purchased by me. I'll risk the side effect of him thinking he's more macho because of it.
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Post by schizophonic on Jun 24, 2009 15:43:19 GMT -5
I'm a little confused on this. Mostly because I've seen more risqué stuff beamed into my home via TV during hours where kids are watching. Not even just on cable, but also on broadcast.
What I'm not saying is "why is this a problem" so much as "Why the mixed message?"
I guess technically this is worse than the usual CK add, but I have trouble really getting worked up. Àside from knowing about sex at a young age, I guess I'm kind of "worn out" on sex in the media. Even in advertisement. It rarely does anything to turn me on.
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Post by dantesvirgil on Jun 24, 2009 15:44:34 GMT -5
That's because they got you when you were young and now you're jaded /conspiracy
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Post by HarleyThomas1002 on Jun 24, 2009 15:47:30 GMT -5
I'm kind of amazed sex still works as a sales ploy. They've been using it for years and people are still buying whatever shit a company is selling so long as the spokesperson or ad in appealing.
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Post by katz on Jun 24, 2009 17:01:23 GMT -5
As another example, my kid (eleven) thinks Axe body spray/wash/etc. is the only kind a boy should ever use -- in spite of us talking about the ads, in spite of me being a very liberalish mom, in spite of the fact that he knows that when he puts it on girls won't dive on top of him. He associates it with being older (and more sexual) and so he wants it. Speaking from experinece Axe bodywash, shampoo and conditonaer do work for their intended purpose. To get you clean. The bodyspray doesn't do shit but make you spell like propane (one of the ingredients) and whatever else is in it no matter how little you use. Untrue! Add a lighter and you have hours of dangerous entertainment.
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Post by Vene on Jun 24, 2009 17:09:52 GMT -5
Speaking from experinece Axe bodywash, shampoo and conditonaer do work for their intended purpose. To get you clean. The bodyspray doesn't do shit but make you spell like propane (one of the ingredients) and whatever else is in it no matter how little you use. *chemist twitch* Propane doesn't have a smell. Alkanes tend to be odorless. I've worked with them in the lab enough to know.
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Post by HarleyThomas1002 on Jun 24, 2009 17:11:16 GMT -5
Speaking from experinece Axe bodywash, shampoo and conditonaer do work for their intended purpose. To get you clean. The bodyspray doesn't do shit but make you spell like propane (one of the ingredients) and whatever else is in it no matter how little you use. Untrue! Add a lighter and you have hours of dangerous entertainment. That's basically the only reason I still have that shit lying around. Now if only I had a lighter. The last one I had I ended up using all the fuel by burning stuff. I ended up setting a classmates paper on fire in math one day as well. I never did get around to getting a new lighter and matches just aren't that appealing.
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Post by Mira on Jun 24, 2009 17:23:40 GMT -5
I wish I could find my Zippo (groomsman gift, has my name etched on it.) Around here in the summer fire is just about the only thing to do. I was going to say something about the propane statement, but I see Vene's science sense is more sensitive
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Post by captainhooker on Jun 24, 2009 17:51:24 GMT -5
It's tying sex to consumerism at as early an age as possible. I find something wrong with that, parent or not. Kids are still developing their sense of self-esteem and sexual awareness. They're the ones most "vulnerable" for the marketing strategy. Well said. This is what I was getting at. I can explain sex to my daughter when she's old enough, but what will be harder to argue is that sex isn't something that shouldn't be commodified or used as a currency to get other people to do what you want when everything around them implies otherwise. I'm no prude, but I don't think sex is something that should be taken lightly - it has the power to give life and the power to kill. To reduce it to a marketing gimmick to snare kids and by extension to model such behavior to those same kids is just plain wrong.
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Post by Dragon Zachski on Jun 24, 2009 18:09:12 GMT -5
It's tying sex to consumerism at as early an age as possible. I find something wrong with that, parent or not. Kids are still developing their sense of self-esteem and sexual awareness. They're the ones most "vulnerable" for the marketing strategy. Well said. This is what I was getting at. I can explain sex to my daughter when she's old enough, but what will be harder to argue is that sex isn't something that shouldn't be commodified or used as a currency to get other people to do what you want when everything around them implies otherwise. I'm no prude, but I don't think sex is something that should be taken lightly - it has the power to give life and the power to kill. To reduce it to a marketing gimmick to snare kids and by extension to model such behavior to those same kids is just plain wrong. From a secular standpoint, sex is probably the most social and emotional thing you can do. From a spiritual standpoint, sex is, in addition to the above, the most sacred and spiritual thing you can do. Sex shouldn't be treated lightly, but it shouldn't be treated as something horrid, either.
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Post by Old Viking on Jun 24, 2009 18:17:20 GMT -5
"American businesses have execrable taste."
"Yes, and ... ?"
To develop a truly repressed attitude about sex, and a hyperactive conscience that stays with you for a lifetime, one had to grow up Catholic in the 40's.
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Post by HarleyThomas1002 on Jun 24, 2009 18:31:34 GMT -5
Speaking from experinece Axe bodywash, shampoo and conditonaer do work for their intended purpose. To get you clean. The bodyspray doesn't do shit but make you spell like propane (one of the ingredients) and whatever else is in it no matter how little you use. *chemist twitch* Propane doesn't have a smell. Alkanes tend to be odorless. I've worked with them in the lab enough to know. I only said propane as it's the only ingredient I could remember off the top of my head. And pronounce more than half of it. But aside from propane Axe also contains alcohol denat, isobutane, propane, parfum, polyaminopropyl, biguanide stearate. I don't know what more than half of those are but it makes me reluctant to want to put that anywhere on me.
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Post by schizophonic on Jun 24, 2009 20:28:03 GMT -5
That's because they got you when you were young and now you're jaded /conspiracy I'm pretty sure that's partially true.
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Post by Vene on Jun 24, 2009 22:15:27 GMT -5
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Post by wmdkitty on Jun 24, 2009 22:52:04 GMT -5
It's an advertisement.
God, I wish America would just get over this "OMG SEX/NUDITY IS BAD!" shit.
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