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Post by Vene on Oct 26, 2011 9:15:00 GMT -5
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Post by Smurfette Principle on Oct 26, 2011 9:28:24 GMT -5
They're using rubber bullets and then denying that they're using them, or that people are being injured. People have been collecting casings for them as evidence and taking pictures.
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Post by Vene on Oct 26, 2011 9:31:15 GMT -5
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Post by caseagainstfaith on Oct 26, 2011 9:45:09 GMT -5
The over reaction of this is done by the riot squads/police is what worries me the most. How far can you push people who are doing a peaceful protest before you push them too far and peace becomes chaos and violent. Or you know how many times can you poke the dog with a stick before he bites...
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Post by Art Vandelay on Oct 26, 2011 9:53:30 GMT -5
The over reaction of this is done by the riot squads/police is what worries me the most. How far can you push people who are doing a peaceful protest before you push them too far and peace becomes chaos and violent. Or you know how many times can you poke the dog with a stick before he bites... That's probably the whole point. If they get violent than Occupy Wall Street will lose every last shred of legitimacy overnight and quickly fade away with the loss of mainstream support. |
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Post by m52nickerson on Oct 26, 2011 10:08:35 GMT -5
On the other hand if they endure without violence they will gain support.
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Post by Smurfette Principle on Oct 26, 2011 10:26:34 GMT -5
But then they're suffering violence without fighting back. Catch-22 for them.
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Post by m52nickerson on Oct 26, 2011 11:30:42 GMT -5
But then they're suffering violence without fighting back. Catch-22 for them. "I cannot teach you violence, as I do not myself believe in it. I can only teach you not to bow your heads before any one even at the cost of your life." ~Mahatma Gandhi |
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Post by aboveathletics on Oct 26, 2011 11:52:10 GMT -5
The police are clearly just doing their jobs, protecting freedom by not letting these criminal terrorists run amok in the streets. Besides, if these protesters weren't doing anything illegal, the police wouldn't be hurting them, right?
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Post by m52nickerson on Oct 26, 2011 12:03:25 GMT -5
Some of what they are doing is illegal. It is called civil disobediences for a reason. The issue is that the police response is disproportionate to the severity of the crime.
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Post by Vene on Oct 26, 2011 12:14:52 GMT -5
The police are clearly just doing their jobs, protecting freedom by not letting these criminal terrorists run amok in the streets. Besides, if these protesters weren't doing anything illegal, the police wouldn't be hurting them, right? Go be dumb someplace else. |
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Post by N. De Plume on Oct 26, 2011 13:40:17 GMT -5
But then they're suffering violence without fighting back. Catch-22 for them. Rather the point of of “Passive” resistance. Suffer the violence. Endure it. Bring the injustice out for the world to see, and do it in a way that leaves no room for doubt that it is injustice. If they can suffer violence without fighting back, they win. |
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Post by lighthorseman on Oct 26, 2011 13:55:52 GMT -5
I'm going to assume that AA is Poeing there. Yes, even him.
Oh sure. But when I criticise police for disproportionate response...
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Post by vesus on Oct 26, 2011 14:08:14 GMT -5
Can you imagine if anything like this had happened to the Teabaggers? They would STILL be whining like children about it. All those senior citizens on Medicare would probably have died from the excitement, however.
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Post by Dragon Zachski on Oct 26, 2011 14:22:31 GMT -5
I'm going to assume that AA is Poeing there. Yes, even him. Oh sure. But when I criticise police for disproportionate response... AA is making a sarcastic jab at the forum populace because he thinks we all love to lick police boot... simply because we disagree that police aren't all completely corrupt thugs. And he also happens to think that internal investigations are nothing more than a conspiracy to give the populace false assurance. That being said, I do understand why people jumped all over you for those threads. I disagree with it, but I do understand why. |
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