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Post by erictheblue on Nov 3, 2011 5:50:11 GMT -5
Description from the video on the youtube page. The judge's wife was emotionally abused herself and was severely manipulated into assisting the beating and should not be blamed for any content in this video. Bull...fucking...shit! She seemed pretty into giving the beating...  |
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Post by erictheblue on Nov 3, 2011 5:56:33 GMT -5
If there is video evidence of this, why hasn't the asshat father been charged? The video was only uploaded last week. Don't know how long Texas prosecutors have, but FL prosecutors have 60 days to file charging documents. (Gives a chance to talk to victims and witnesses, make sure the desired charges fit the legal definitions, etc.) Just because he hasn't been charged does not mean he won't be charged. |
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Post by lighthorseman on Nov 3, 2011 6:20:14 GMT -5
Is there a statute of limitation on this sort of thing in Texas? This did happen in '04.
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Post by erictheblue on Nov 3, 2011 6:33:24 GMT -5
Is there a statute of limitation on this sort of thing in Texas? This did happen in '04. Just a quick glance through TX law... 10 years if the daughter fits the definition of disabled person and this is a first degree felony. (I have not looked at the statute that defines disabled or child abuse, so don't know.) 5 years if the daughter fits the definition of disabled person and this is not a first degree felony. 10 years from the 18th birthday of the victim for injury to a child. Using just the last one, it looks like it is still within the statute of limitations. |
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Post by lighthorseman on Nov 3, 2011 6:38:55 GMT -5
Is there a statute of limitation on this sort of thing in Texas? This did happen in '04. Just a quick glance through TX law... 10 years if the daughter fits the definition of disabled person and this is a first degree felony. (I have not looked at the statute that defines disabled or child abuse, so don't know.) 5 years if the daughter fits the definition of disabled person and this is not a first degree felony. 10 years from the 18th birthday of the victim for injury to a child. Using just the last one, it looks like it is still within the statute of limitations. Interesting. Thanks EtB! |
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Post by scienceisgreen on Nov 3, 2011 6:42:26 GMT -5
Can't we just string people up Mussolini style?
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Post by Trillian on Nov 3, 2011 6:57:19 GMT -5
Description from the video on the youtube page. The judge's wife was emotionally abused herself and was severely manipulated into assisting the beating and should not be blamed for any content in this video. Bull...fucking...shit! Am I seriously the only one who noticed that she was trying to protect her daughter? She did it all fucking wrong, and it ended up being for nothing when the father came storming back in because "he didn't get to have his lick at her yet", but she did attempt it. I agree, I saw it too. It was a pretty lame attempt, but it was there. It's easy to say she should have done x, y or z, but when you are a victim of emotional and physical abuse for that long your idea of "protection" is very different to that of someone else. And by protect, she tried to take the belt and give the child a softer beating on the backside, trying to get the husband to see the beating as 'finished'. It didn't work, but it was there. Oh, the mom is also to blame, but I think her involvement is forgivable (with a lot of time and therapy), but that father needs jail time. F*cking dickhead. |
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Post by syaoranvee on Nov 3, 2011 10:00:15 GMT -5
Likely Reality: The local Texas police will review the case, find that nothing was wrong and the Judge will be able to keep his job. The girl may end up finding that this will backfire because she admitted to an actual crime that has no grey area like with her father.
Also it says something about my own past when watching going, "well that's a minor beating".
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Post by erictheblue on Nov 3, 2011 11:11:35 GMT -5
Likely Reality: The local Texas police will review the case, It won' t be the police. This case has already been referred to the District Attorney's Office. OK, more on TX law. This is not child abuse. TX law defines a child as someone under 14. Since the victim was 16 at the time of the video, she is no longer a "child." However, that does make conviction easier since changing the charge to "assault," (which TX defines both as threatening to cause harm and actually causing harm) does not have a defense of disciplining a child. (In other words, the judge cannot say "I was just disciplining my daughter.") TX courts have upheld assault convictions for slapping the face of a person, kicking a person, dragging a person by the hair, tackling a person, hitting a person in the ear, and grabbing a person by the arm. (Those are all different cases.) Given that, I'd say a reasonable prosecutor would find grounds to file charges. I cannot say there will be a conviction, since that is a jury question, but I cannot imagine charges not being filed. I noticed that as well. I cannot speak for the DA's in TX, but I have seen prosecutors disregard minor crimes when larger ones are alleged. (Such as a woman who had gasoline poured on her while sitting in the driver's seat of her car admitting that she had an alcoholic mixed drink in a glass with her.) |
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Post by Dragon Zachski on Nov 3, 2011 13:47:20 GMT -5
Am I seriously the only one who noticed that she was trying to protect her daughter? She did it all fucking wrong, and it ended up being for nothing when the father came storming back in because "he didn't get to have his lick at her yet", but she did attempt it. Explain, then, how the FUCK hitting your child with a belt, even once, is protecting her. I fucking dare you to. That is not protecting. Protecting is when you rip that motherfucker's balls off with your bare hand for even thinking of laying a finger on your baby girl. She deserves nothing less than having her kids taken from her. Because the alternative (which happened anyways, which was her father beating her senseless with that belt viciously, FAR MORE THAN ONCE) is much much worse than one hit. Trillian gets it, if you want to read that post, too. I'm not saying it was the right thing to do. It was the wrong thing to do. Bearing in mind, however, that before you talk to me like that, FUCKING READ MY POST. I explicitly said that she tried to protect her, but didn't do the right thing. I was in no way condoning her actions. So don't talk to me like I'm condoning it when you apparently are so enraged that you can't take two seconds to read and comprehend my post. Learn the difference between saying "She was trying to protect her daughter" and "She was protecting her daughter". The two have different meanings. |
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Post by Kisare on Nov 4, 2011 4:31:49 GMT -5
Explain, then, how the FUCK hitting your child with a belt, even once, is protecting her. I fucking dare you to. That is not protecting. Protecting is when you rip that motherfucker's balls off with your bare hand for even thinking of laying a finger on your baby girl. She deserves nothing less than having her kids taken from her. Because the alternative (which happened anyways, which was her father beating her senseless with that belt viciously, FAR MORE THAN ONCE) is much much worse than one hit. Trillian gets it, if you want to read that post, too. I'm not saying it was the right thing to do. It was the wrong thing to do. Bearing in mind, however, that before you talk to me like that, FUCKING READ MY POST. I explicitly said that she tried to protect her, but didn't do the right thing. I was in no way condoning her actions. So don't talk to me like I'm condoning it when you apparently are so enraged that you can't take two seconds to read and comprehend my post. Learn the difference between saying "She was trying to protect her daughter" and "She was protecting her daughter". The two have different meanings. I read your post, and yes, she may have thought she was protecting her daughter, but it's not even a matter of going about it the wrong way. It's a matter of she's getting involved in the abuse, and agreeing with her husband about his choice of punishment, in front of her already traumatized daughter, and then (from what I can see) kicking her out of her own room to sleep on the couch. One fucked-up failure of an attempt does NOT make up for that. At all. So excuse me for being rubbed the wrong way by you saying how she "tried to protect her" while she went and said what she did just a few minutes later. I don't buy it. |
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Post by Vypernight on Nov 4, 2011 4:44:03 GMT -5
Gotta love how our legal system works.
Prostitution = automatic jail (different story)
downloading something = jail
blatant child abuse bordering on assault = investigation.
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Post by Dragon Zachski on Nov 4, 2011 14:28:04 GMT -5
Because the alternative (which happened anyways, which was her father beating her senseless with that belt viciously, FAR MORE THAN ONCE) is much much worse than one hit. Trillian gets it, if you want to read that post, too. I'm not saying it was the right thing to do. It was the wrong thing to do. Bearing in mind, however, that before you talk to me like that, FUCKING READ MY POST. I explicitly said that she tried to protect her, but didn't do the right thing. I was in no way condoning her actions. So don't talk to me like I'm condoning it when you apparently are so enraged that you can't take two seconds to read and comprehend my post. Learn the difference between saying "She was trying to protect her daughter" and "She was protecting her daughter". The two have different meanings. I read your post, and yes, she may have thought she was protecting her daughter, but it's not even a matter of going about it the wrong way. It's a matter of she's getting involved in the abuse, and agreeing with her husband about his choice of punishment, in front of her already traumatized daughter, and then (from what I can see) kicking her out of her own room to sleep on the couch. One fucked-up failure of an attempt does NOT make up for that. At all. So excuse me for being rubbed the wrong way by you saying how she "tried to protect her" while she went and said what she did just a few minutes later. I don't buy it. So, basically, you continue to refuse to read the part where I said she went about it wrong and continue to shout at me about her. What part of "What she did was wrong" didn't you read? At the same time, she had been abused herself. She had already been broken. Are we going to get angry at abuse victims for the results of being abused now? Believe it or not, what you are doing is blaming an abuse victim for being abused. Her actions were wrong. I don't know how many times I have to say it before you stop yelling at me. But at the same time, you are picking and choosing which abuse victims to show compassion towards. |
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Post by Radiation on Nov 4, 2011 14:49:22 GMT -5
18 hour tantrums huh? Impressive. My daughter maxes out at about half an hour. Well... we didn't know that I had autism (Asperger's) at the time and a lot of my behavior was contributed to my hearing loss (which wasn't true since there are plenty of deaf kids that don't have emotional problems) They really didn't know why I acted the way that I did but I have heard that kids on the autistic spectrum have spectacular temper tantrums. I only found out I had Asperger's in 2002 when my mom attended a psychiatric appointment with me. Back then I was heavily into Islam and was wearing the full garb including the face veil (niqab, not burqa) and my mom mentioned that when I was very young I would stare at a light bulb for hours and she would come and move me and then I'd go right back to the very same spot and continue to stare at the light bulb. I also was insistent that every object should stay in the same place that it was before. For example, if there is a cup near the corner of a table and someone picked up and placed it somewhere else on the table, I would pick it back up and put back in the spot before, in the exact same spot. This habit was broken by my pre-primary impaired teachers. Anyways, the aforementioned psychiatrist had us look up Asperger's on the computer and to discuss it with each other and then talk about it at the next session. So we did and I hit about every damn thing described in the DSM-IV-TR, so thus at the next session I was diagnosed with Asperger's. |
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Post by N. De Plume on Nov 4, 2011 14:57:03 GMT -5
She had already been broken. Are we going to get angry at abuse victims for the results of being abused now? This. I think this kind of abuse is pretty damn close to outright brainwashing. Hell, it might even count. Folks in abusive relationships really are not in full control of their mental faculties. |
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