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Post by Madame Scarlet on May 12, 2009 13:37:24 GMT -5
Thats what i like to call a "trailer scene". Looks pretty bad ass in a trailer, but feels totally out of place with the rest of the flick. I'm gonna have to disagree with you there. I was pissed off about that scene before I even saw the movie. |
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Post by SimSim on May 12, 2009 14:59:52 GMT -5
They still showed that Kirk was a rebel perfectly well with the bar brawl scene. I didn't even know the car scene was part of the trailer, but then I never saw the trailer.
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Post by Vypernight on May 12, 2009 16:33:03 GMT -5
I just saw it today. I'll admit, I enjoyed it. They actually made me like Kirk again, and I'll admit that they did a good job of putting him in the captain seat. The Kobayashi Maru scene was my favorite. There, edited to fix the spelling. Happy?  |
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Post by tygerarmy on May 13, 2009 16:58:16 GMT -5
Never watch Star Trek before. I thought it was a good movie. A second movie could have the crew boldly go and by the third they could try to prevent the time travel from ever happening, saving two planets in the process.
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Post by Bezron on May 14, 2009 9:09:24 GMT -5
The Kobiashi Muru (Sorry if I just butchered that) scene was my favorite. I CANNOT believe you misspelled that! What the hell??! (just kidding, I don't know how to spell it either) |
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Post by xaria on May 15, 2009 15:12:53 GMT -5
as an uber nerd i can write pages on my issues with it. as a film it was ok. as a star trek film it wasnt
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Post by Thejebusfire on May 15, 2009 21:53:01 GMT -5
I rather enjoyed it. But then again, I never really watched the show that much.
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Post by peanutfan on May 16, 2009 11:33:01 GMT -5
I've been a casual Trekkie all my life; though I haven't watched anything but my NextGen DVDs and the occasional Voyager and Enterprise rerun in a while, I quite enjoy the show and movies.
All that being said, I guarantee that every single TV or movie series ever made has had SOME problems with continuity, and I find myself forced to side with Trek-haters when they bash on uber-Trekkies for getting so upset about things that deviate from canon in even the smallest degree.
People...IT'S FUCKING ENTERTAINMENT, NOT IMMUTABLE FUCKING PROPHECIES ABOUT THE FUTURE!
There, I'm done (for now).
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Post by wisechild on May 16, 2009 14:28:00 GMT -5
I would consider myself a causal fan, but this film, although entertaining, had severe holes of continuity. I would have spanned, over the first film and it's following sequel, a power struggle between Kirk, Spock and Captain Pike. Pun attended, that would be logical, and natural. Also, there seems to be this drive to make The Enterprise, itself, a character. As in, the writers feel the need to shoehorn the characters into the flagship, in quick order. Kirk is supposed to be a rugged individualist, while also being a natural leader. He probably should have gone on some solo adventure, (or command a small yet agile ship) to prove himself.
I did find this movie entertaining with the introduction of all the characters, but at the end I was disappointed in the plot. I was optimistic that they were going to tie up the holes. Speaking of optimism, critics were proclaiming that there was a theme of optimism in this film, oddly enough.
Also, this was directed by the creator of Lost, so I imagine he has something up his sleeve for the sequel. I have never seen Lost, on account of not being able to jump right into the complicated plot, but this maybe good for the sequels.
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Post by NoLeafClover on May 16, 2009 15:04:42 GMT -5
What severe holes in continuity?
From the start, Abrahms said that it was going to be it's own self-contained flick, and everything that came before it in terms of the TV shows and movies were pretty well null and void. This is the launch of a new franchise, separate of the stuff that came before it, and the plot of the self-contained new universe itself had no severe plotholes.
And what do you call Kirk diving off the drill to save Sulu, kicking a bunch of Starfleet officers asses single-handedly, and running away from the venus flytrap looking whatever?
And...and...
BAH!
*sulks*
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Post by Napoleon the Clown on May 17, 2009 1:24:52 GMT -5
I've been a casual Trekkie all my life; though I haven't watched anything but my NextGen DVDs and the occasional Voyager and Enterprise rerun in a while, I quite enjoy the show and movies. All that being said, I guarantee that every single TV or movie series ever made has had SOME problems with continuity, and I find myself forced to side with Trek-haters when they bash on uber-Trekkies for getting so upset about things that deviate from canon in even the smallest degree. People...IT'S FUCKING ENTERTAINMENT, NOT IMMUTABLE FUCKING PROPHECIES ABOUT THE FUTURE! There, I'm done (for now). Whenever Trekkies complain about the movie not following continuity established in prior movies and the prior series, kindly point out that there wasn't too terribly much attention to continuity during individual SEASONS, much less the lifetime of the show. |
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Post by Panthera on May 18, 2009 0:51:03 GMT -5
I would have spanned, over the first film and it's following sequel, a power struggle between Kirk, Spock and Captain Pike. Pun attended, that would be logical, and natural. Also, there seems to be this drive to make The Enterprise, itself, a character. As in, the writers feel the need to shoehorn the characters into the flagship, in quick order. Kirk is supposed to be a rugged individualist, while also being a natural leader. He probably should have gone on some solo adventure, (or command a small yet agile ship) to prove himself. Uh, yeah... This is an SFX-driven, big-guns-and-bigger-damn-heroes hard-and-fast summer action flick, big on action, tension, and violence and a little short on story. It's not a fucking space opera. If you want that, go watch Star Wars. And I'm saying this as someone who's a fan of both franchises. |
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Post by xaria on May 18, 2009 6:31:20 GMT -5
What severe holes in continuity? off the top of my head. the enterprise symbol is the star fleet symbol, captain pike is about 15 years too old, entirely wrong uniforms for the year, everyone knowing what romulans look like, delta vega being in completly the wrong place thats off the top of my head and stuff that couldnt be explained away by the magical paralel reality thing. in my nerdish mind the only way to fit it into continuity is to assume the reality split off at some point before nero's arrival and nero and spock ended up in an already paralel reality and didnt realise it. |
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Post by peanutfan on May 18, 2009 11:28:40 GMT -5
Many of the things you cite can be explained by pointing out that any sort of time travel would have effects reaching far beyond the obvious; it's called the "butterfly effect". Nero showing up when he did could have altered things in tiny ways that led to bigger effects with no directly obvious cause-and-effect.
The rest can be explained by the fact that the movie had a better production budget than all three seasons of the original series put together.
Seriously, are you going to complain because the bridge didn't look like a cardboard box next?
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Post by Bezron on May 18, 2009 12:16:20 GMT -5
off the top of my head. the enterprise symbol is the star fleet symbol, This is something that I'm a bit confused about. Wasn't it only in the original series that there were different symbols for the various ships? I don't recall much of the other series, but in the movies (based on TOS) the symbol seemed to be presented as an overall Star Fleet or Federation symbol. Although, the Enterprise symbol being the same as the Fleet or Federation sysmbol would actually make sense, as the Enterprise has always been the flagship for the Fleet. {SPOILER} One small loophole that I caught was that James Kirk was born on a shuttle while the Kelvin was being destroyed. However, Kirk has always been presented as being born in Iowa. So either the timeline did split prior to Nero coming through, Kirk was born prematurely (which would actually change the timeframe slightly), or they screwed up. BTW, did anyone else yell out "How do you feel?" during the Vulcan school scene? sorry, put the spoiler warning in the wrong spot |
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