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Post by nautical999 on Sept 25, 2009 9:25:09 GMT -5
she did not come here to ask questions but had posted a comment on our site and it was posted here with a bunch of badgering and making fun of her never did i condemn valsa to hell. What i said and i could be wrong on the exact wording is this, Homosexuality is a sin, living in sin will get you to hell.
lightmelon i am doing good and happy anniversary heck one year hows longs he gonna make you wait?
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Post by m52nickerson on Sept 25, 2009 9:29:02 GMT -5
she did not come here to ask questions but had posted a comment on our site and it was posted here with a bunch of badgering and making fun of her So she was mainpaged. Well making fun of people when they say something inane is what the main page is all about.
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Post by nautical999 on Sept 25, 2009 9:31:31 GMT -5
m52nickerson she had posted on our site and it was pasted here. Thats uncalled for. she is a good woman who has been through a lot and does not need harassment. i understand that is what you guys do here is attack those who speak there beliefs but it was on our site not here. some people can not handle that sort of thing. Me? i'm pretty tough i can handle a lot of things. I've been through a lot of things and i'm not shaken that easily. but others are.
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Post by m52nickerson on Sept 25, 2009 9:44:12 GMT -5
You do realize that all most all of the quotes on the main page come from other sites right?
People run the risk of having their idea/post scrutinized when they post on forums that can be viewed by others. If people can't handle that they should not post on the INTERNET.
Can someone post a link to this quote please?
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Post by nautical999 on Sept 25, 2009 10:07:28 GMT -5
m52nickerson i don't think it is possible to weed out those who cannot handle this and not allow them to write on the internet there are many who can't. this causes a lot of harm. there are a lot of people who use the internet for help. Take this into consideration when you're pulling posts off of other sites and pasting here just to tear these people down.
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Post by m52nickerson on Sept 25, 2009 11:25:24 GMT -5
m52nickerson i don't think it is possible to weed out those who cannot handle this and not allow them to write on the Internet there are many who can't. this causes a lot of harm. there are a lot of people who use the Internet for help. Take this into consideration when you're pulling posts off of other sites and pasting here just to tear these people down. Harm? It may cause some of these people to get angry, or embarrassed, and maybe......just maybe......make them realize how ridiculous they sound. Making fun of someone when they say something stupid does not cause harm. Lying to people and telling them that they have demons very much may cause harm.
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Post by lonelocust on Sept 25, 2009 13:40:39 GMT -5
she did not come here to ask questions but had posted a comment on our site and it was posted here with a bunch of badgering and making fun of her And people forced her to read the comments how exactly? People have the right to say what they want, and to say things that are purposefully uninformed. Other people have the right to comment on it. THIS IS A DIRECT QUESTION. So, is the forgiveness of Christ, in your opinion, not enough to save one from hell? If one is a homosexual or believes in evolution, but accepts your little scheme of forgiveness and blood sacrifice, are they still going to hell? (And once again, I believe none of it, not even that your god exists, and I'm even at best agnostic about whether Jesus existed as a mortal man, but I want to know what you think.)
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Post by lonelocust on Sept 25, 2009 13:47:08 GMT -5
valsa - I'm not exactly clear on what an astrology chart is. As I understand it it takes into account the specific day and hour a person was born, and the latitude, and calculates what planets are in what constellations at exactly that moment, and then makes what are alleged to be more specific inferences about a person's personality or fate or whatever than a generalized "sign" horoscope. Something like that. (Again, I haven't seen any evidence to indicate that astrology is objectively true, and I don't actually believe in it, but that is my understanding. And having little data on it, as with everything, I'm always out for more data.)
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Post by valsa on Sept 25, 2009 13:48:31 GMT -5
Can someone post a link to this quote please? Which one? Jewels has been quoted nine times for her craziness. Here are the links- fstdt.com/QuoteComment.aspx?QID=63922One of her "Jesus is lord over autism" spiels (her son is severely autistic) fstdt.com/QuoteComment.aspx?QID=62879Her thinking that "Indian activity" caused her autistic son to have fits in the shower fstdt.com/QuoteComment.aspx?QID=51256Evil Furbie rant fstdt.com/QuoteComment.aspx?QID=47777General "demons have been cast out of me" crazy fstdt.com/QuoteComment.aspx?QID=45173More autism fun fstdt.com/QuoteComment.aspx?QID=44985Her sense of "strict" parenting fstdt.com/QuoteComment.aspx?QID=42483More stuff about her poor autistic son (whom she thinks Jesus has already cured of autism... even though he's in the double digits (I believe) age-wise and has still never spoken a word) fstdt.com/QuoteComment.aspx?QID=33766Father/husband playing online gaming allows demons into the house and gives their daughter nightmares fstdt.com/QuoteComment.aspx?QID=27455"I guess I am supposed to be happy when perscuted for Christ" - Jewels @ Nautical- She posted things on your public Ministering Deliverance website. Public. As in- "can be seen by everyone else" Her stuff sounds crazy to normal people, so she was quoted here for the lulz. She, somehow, found this site and decided to basically troll us on her quotes. She could have gracefully turned the other cheek (wasn't it your guy who said that?) but chose not to. Believe me, I've had some stuff I said quoted on other websites (Fandon Wank) to be made fun of and I joined in! When you're within your "inner circle" and preaching to the choir, you say things that do sometimes sound a little off to people outside that circle. You should take it with grace, not flip out like Jewels did. Homosexuality is a sin? Says who? Your Bible, even if I were to believe in that (which, obviously, is a no-go) has three passages against homosexuality, the meaning of which people, far more informed about the Bible than you or I, can't even agree on. Some of those passages are right alongside others which give equal condemnation to things like eating shellfish, wearing mixed fabrics, and working on the Sabbath (I hope you've never taken an emergency plumbing job from sundown on Friday to sundown of Saturday, or you're "living in sin" just as much as I am)
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Post by m52nickerson on Sept 25, 2009 14:13:17 GMT -5
Can someone post a link to this quote please? Which one? Jewels has been quoted nine times for her craziness. Here are the links- Thank you. ....WOW! That is a whole lot of crazy.
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Post by ironbite on Sept 25, 2009 14:43:43 GMT -5
she did not come here to ask questions but had posted a comment on our site and it was posted here with a bunch of badgering and making fun of her never did i condemn valsa to hell. What i said and i could be wrong on the exact wording is this, Homosexuality is a sin, living in sin will get you to hell. lightmelon i am doing good and happy anniversary heck one year hows longs he gonna make you wait? ..............................I'm sorry but didn't Jesus die so all our sins are forgiven? I thought that was the point. Oh and as for your RR buddy, we don't care. Really. YOu make a post in a public setting, you pay the consequences of it. If you RR guys really wanted us to stop quoting you, make your forum totally private. It's not that hard. Ironbite-otherwise we'll just keep making fun of you.
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Post by lonelocust on Sept 25, 2009 14:49:55 GMT -5
These are the Deliverance guys, Ironbite, not RR. GAH! Get it right! *plays the banjo*
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Post by m52nickerson on Sept 25, 2009 15:09:29 GMT -5
If it is the same Jewels she has posts from RR also.
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Post by valsa on Sept 25, 2009 15:43:26 GMT -5
If it is the same Jewels she has posts from RR also. *blinkblink* I didn't even see the different sources. It might not be the same Jewels for the last two links then. I did wonder, however, why her spelling, punctuation, and overall typing was so much better in those other two posts. Guess I know why. ETA: lightmelon i am doing good and happy anniversary heck one year hows longs he gonna make you wait? I'm not Lightmelon but- wait for what? *seriously hopes you don't mean a marriage proposal*
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Post by m52nickerson on Sept 25, 2009 16:02:00 GMT -5
I'm not Lightmelon but- wait for what? *seriously hopes you don't mean a marriage proposal* How are you surprised by this? It comes form a man who thinks people are made out of dust and claims he has fought a sea monster in a bathtube.
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