lightmelon
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Post by lightmelon on Sept 27, 2009 1:23:20 GMT -5
Well, there is a bit of a slight problem with that^^; My ex fiance...is also my best friend in the whole entire world. We had a rocky relationship, sure, but afterwards we were so close we decided to turn our bond into the kind of friendship that lasts a lifetime. Of course, the fact still remains that he regrets ever breaking up with me and wants me back still, a fact he reminds me of like every week recently...but, yeah, he's a good guy and I just don't ditch best friends. But nautical, I think you're right, it would work if we weren't still close like we are.
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Post by valsa on Sept 27, 2009 2:12:03 GMT -5
Well, there is a bit of a slight problem with that^^; My ex fiance...is also my best friend in the whole entire world. We had a rocky relationship, sure, but afterwards we were so close we decided to turn our bond into the kind of friendship that lasts a lifetime. Of course, the fact still remains that he regrets ever breaking up with me and wants me back still, a fact he reminds me of like every week recently...but, yeah, he's a good guy and I just don't ditch best friends. But nautical, I think you're right, it would work if we weren't still close like we are. Sounds like your life calls for a threesome  |
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Post by Rime on Sept 27, 2009 6:44:35 GMT -5
When a person has an unhealthy relationship with some ( unmarried sex) what forms is a soul tie between the two. Wait, if you need to have unmarried sex to have a soul tie, why did you tell me way back on the second page that I had soul ties with all my ex-girlfriends, with whom I never had sex? And what happens if you have sex with your husband and then two of you get divorced? People have unresolved feelings towards their ex-spouses, even though the sex wasn't unmarried. Yes, because with TRUE CHRISTIANS TM we know that it's all about sex. Those filthy humanists tend to call that, umm, closure, I think. But remember, asking God to do it for you is so much better than trying to do it yourself.  |
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lightmelon
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Post by lightmelon on Sept 27, 2009 16:15:32 GMT -5
Well, there is a bit of a slight problem with that^^; My ex fiance...is also my best friend in the whole entire world. We had a rocky relationship, sure, but afterwards we were so close we decided to turn our bond into the kind of friendship that lasts a lifetime. Of course, the fact still remains that he regrets ever breaking up with me and wants me back still, a fact he reminds me of like every week recently...but, yeah, he's a good guy and I just don't ditch best friends. But nautical, I think you're right, it would work if we weren't still close like we are. Sounds like your life calls for a threesome I have a feeling my boyfriend would rather shoot himself in the head xD |
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Post by valsa on Sept 27, 2009 16:38:10 GMT -5
I have a feeling my boyfriend would rather shoot himself in the head xD Then, obviously, you haven't been training him right. Maybe it's time to start over from scratch. Get the whips, handcuffs, and nipple clamps back out, he needs some... re-education... Big, thick, hard... re-education. |
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Post by nautical999 on Sept 27, 2009 17:20:00 GMT -5
Ok valsa :
There are two different types of soul ties one is an unhealthy ( sinful relationship) that could even refer to really good friends that you do bad things with. Drug addicts who hang around each other for instance who have partied together when they are together that is a trigger and they want to party. Although in some occasions it is possible for both to get right it will be harder on the buddy system with an addict you did drugs with. Also the same as a sinful relationship with the same sex. a friendship outside of the restraints of the bible.
As far as sexual soul ties. it is self explanatory. Both cases are soul ties though and are dealt with pretty much the same way. I was just trying to
As far as unresolved feelings toward an ex spouse it would be the same thing. although it would not be an unhealthy soul tie ( unless there was sex before marriage ) there is still a tie that ties them together. For the person to move on this would need to be broken. This could be why America has such a high divorce rate is pre-marital sex.
The bible explains that when a man and woman get married they leave the parents home and be united with each other and become one flesh. When you become one flesh with many people each person will take a part of you with them. That is why so many people don't have anything to give anymore in there relationship because they gave those parts to others along the way. If you break that soul tie and bring back to you what had left then you will have it again to give to the one that you are meant to be with for the rest of your life.
no this is not meant to tell someone what to do but it is meant to let her know my advice on it. She can take it or leave it that's up to her.
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Post by nautical999 on Sept 27, 2009 17:25:20 GMT -5
lightmelon
you are so right and this i didn't even get to. And is a problem with many. Breaking the unhealthy soul tie is not breaking your friendship with him. It is not making the decision that because you sinned together you can't be friends again. it is just breaking the sinful part of it and taking back what is rightfully yours. And giving back what is rightfully his. This may help him get beyond the breaking up as well. And may put your bf now in a better state of mind about it. He may be passive but i would bet there are times he thinks about it.
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Post by Vene on Sept 27, 2009 18:18:43 GMT -5
The idiot is still talking?
And I can back that up, blaming everything he doesn't like (or his cult doesn't like, same difference) on demons is idiotic and something that is unjustifiable. If he doesn't like this, great, point me to a demon. It shouldn't be that hard, according to him, as I'm currently living and sexually active with a married transsexual couple.
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Post by valsa on Sept 27, 2009 18:45:59 GMT -5
There are two different types of soul ties one is an unhealthy ( sinful relationship) that could even refer to really good friends that you do bad things with. But I didn't do anything sinful with my girlfriends. Unless you count sharing a Pepsi (if you’re taking the Bible literally, drinking caffeinated beverages is also a “no no”) And if I supposedly had a soul tie with my old girlfriends, shouldn’t that have some negative affect on me? I don’t have any unresolved issues with my girlfriends. Most of us remain friends or just naturally drifted apart as we grew up. This could be why America has such a high divorce rate is pre-marital sex. Which would explain why the highest rates of divorce are in the Bible Belt where all they do is preach marriage-before-sex. Oh wait. No. No it doesn’t. The bible explains that when a man and woman get married they leave the parents home and be united with each other and become one flesh. Do I even need to mention all the instances of polygamy in the Bible? Including that God himself gave David multiple wives? |
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Post by nautical999 on Sept 27, 2009 20:41:48 GMT -5
vene
there is no pointing out sin for those who know it. And it is not for me to judge but to give knowledge to those who need it.
valsa
what makes these relationships sinful no matter what you did with them is the fact that they were your girlfriends. Not whether or not you engaged in anything with them.I have never heard of anything stating that there were more divorces in the bible belt but wouldn't be surprised because the devil loves braking up families and causing emotional harm on all involved.
As far as polygamy is concerned it was necessary to repopulate the world. It is not necessary now and it is also against the law.
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Post by lonelocust on Sept 27, 2009 21:25:04 GMT -5
So Lightmellon, an ex of mine who believed in the accuracy of astrology (I do not, and think that confirmation bias accounts for thinking it's 99.9% accurate, based on my current data and observations) offered to make me a "full chart" or whatever as evidence that I could skeptically check out. Any chance you do that sort of thing and would like to for me? I hate to knock things before I try them or dismiss ideas without data and am always up for a mind-changer. :-D Give me a day or two and I'll just copy/paste whatever my software coughs up and then discuss any questions yall have. Just remember, my freeware will give a brief description of what every sign and position of the signs tells about your personality and life. Meh, that's the same thing I can get for myself from the tubes. I appreciate the good faith answer to my question, but I'll go ahead and pass. Now, I'm capable of the astronomical calculations, so if you just want to know if things are retrograde and what is in what house or whatevs and can interpret from there, I can do that. (I might need to get somewhere to tell me where the houses are, though, since the procession of the equinoxes means that while I'm "a Scorpio", the sun was not actually in the constellation of Scorpio when I was born.) Well, I won't be a jerk to you about it because you're not all up in my face, and I did ask you rather than vice versa, but in honesty I find your (and everyone's) belief in astrology about as well-supported as Nautical's belief in demons (though less ridiculous than his belief in fighting demons in bathtubs or that everyone who's ever been bullied as a child or felt rejected has ADD), and the hemming and hawing that it's inexact, things might just *look* wrong, etc. to be equally suspect for confirmation bias as his claims that people who really WANT it get healed, etc. I feel like more of a jerk for saying so because I came and kicked your sandcastle, whereas he came and kicked our sandcastle, but in the spirit of honesty and equality, I feel I need to say so. Also you seem very nice and interesting, and I like you! |
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Post by RavynousHunter on Sept 27, 2009 21:29:45 GMT -5
And it is not for me to judge but to give knowledge to those who need it. What are your criteria for determining weather or not they need said knowledge? What do you feel are your qualifications for the dissemination of such knowledge? |
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Post by lonelocust on Sept 27, 2009 21:39:38 GMT -5
As far as unresolved feelings toward an ex spouse it would be the same thing. although it would not be an unhealthy soul tie ( unless there was sex before marriage ) there is still a tie that ties them together. For the person to move on this would need to be broken. This could be why America has such a high divorce rate is pre-marital sex. Nope, sorry. Other countries with a healthy attitude towards pre-marital sex (that is, that it's normal and good) have lower divorce rates, not to mention much much much lower teen pregnancy rates and teen STD rates. Additionally, while specific information on whether couples had pre-marital sex is difficult to come by (no one's seemed to develop a good research method yet that doesn't give gross inconsistencies in results), living together isn't tied to being together for a total of a shorter period of time. Also, adolescents who SAY they are going to be abstinant have no lower of a rate of divorce, and have a HIGHER rate of teen pregnancy and STDs. So again, you can speculate all you like. You can make claims of knowledge. But our scientific society has ACTUAL DATA about this. For once, I will agree on one point. Everyone with whom I have had an intense emotional relationship with has a metaphorical "part of me". OK, almost everyone; there's one relationship that was bad, and that's really not so much true because the relationship was bad business and only took from me without giving, and I completely emotionally "got over it" because there was nothing good to take with me. But a good number of people with whom I have had emotionally intense relationships I will always think of as having a part of me, and as having given me something. But of course, I disagree with the main part. Because I have grown as a person with everyone who was willing to really give themselves to me and make me feel able to really give myself to them, I have more to give in every new relationship. When I have real, loving relationships, I learn more about who I am and who I can be and what I want to be, what I want and need people to give in relationships and what I want to be able to give to others. There are a million reasons to want to break the idea that people are "ruined" by past relationships, particularly past sexual relationships (and particularly women being in those relationships, but I digress). While probably the most glaring is that it treats people like objects instead of like people and treats sexuality like the whole of a person instead of some small part of them, the main reason that speaks to me is how demonizing true relationships deprives people of amazing love and experiences that they could have had. (The last few paragraphs directed at people who might just be interested in my opinion on the subject.) |
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Post by nautical999 on Sept 27, 2009 21:43:17 GMT -5
rhoo
when someone states that there may be a problem little or big i am one who wants to try to help. My qualifications are that i am an ordained minister. Ordained by God and by the church.
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lightmelon
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Post by lightmelon on Sept 27, 2009 21:50:11 GMT -5
Give me a day or two and I'll just copy/paste whatever my software coughs up and then discuss any questions yall have. Just remember, my freeware will give a brief description of what every sign and position of the signs tells about your personality and life. Meh, that's the same thing I can get for myself from the tubes. I appreciate the good faith answer to my question, but I'll go ahead and pass. Now, I'm capable of the astronomical calculations, so if you just want to know if things are retrograde and what is in what house or whatevs and can interpret from there, I can do that. (I might need to get somewhere to tell me where the houses are, though, since the procession of the equinoxes means that while I'm "a Scorpio", the sun was not actually in the constellation of Scorpio when I was born.) Well, I won't be a jerk to you about it because you're not all up in my face, and I did ask you rather than vice versa, but in honesty I find your (and everyone's) belief in astrology about as well-supported as Nautical's belief in demons (though less ridiculous than his belief in fighting demons in bathtubs or that everyone who's ever been bullied as a child or felt rejected has ADD), and the hemming and hawing that it's inexact, things might just *look* wrong, etc. to be equally suspect for confirmation bias as his claims that people who really WANT it get healed, etc. I feel like more of a jerk for saying so because I came and kicked your sandcastle, whereas he came and kicked our sandcastle, but in the spirit of honesty and equality, I feel I need to say so. Also you seem very nice and interesting, and I like you! I understand, and ditto, I like you too :3 I can see the parallels between me and nautical, and I'll admit, until science gets around to actually trying to prove astrology, which would be kinda difficult....my belief in astrology is about as crediable as nautical's belief in the biblical Christianity, But I have to give myself a few props because there's actual logic behind astrology, and real math, and can at least be slightly proven through calculations and charts....while all Christianity has going for it is faith. |
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