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Post by John E on Apr 9, 2009 11:56:38 GMT -5
I also look forward to conversing with you and finding out what it was that made you fall away. Have been and will continue to pray for you. Will be in touch soon. In love, KiwiAndrew. Personally, I didn't fall away from Christianity because I never believed in it. I was born an atheist by default, grew up in a largely agnostic family, and remain basically agnostic to this day. |
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Post by machiavelli on Apr 9, 2009 11:57:24 GMT -5
Hi KiwiAndrew,
Welcome to the Forum -
I have a few questions that have been plaguing me all this time since contradictions in the ''Good Book'' have been revealed to me.
Throughout many times in the Bible, Characteristics of God sum up as being simultaneously a ''JUST'' God and an ''Omnipresent'' God. Moreover, the famous saying, God Has a plan also illustrates that God is at once the Architect of our lives, our destiny and the ultimate Judge at the Pearly Gates (Or whatever).
In the Letter to the Romans, Paul tells the Romans not to revolt against the Roman Empire, because its all part of God's Master Plan. (I am paraphrasing of course). This illustrates that God knowingly creates evil to do complete his handy work.
So here are my Questions.
How do you explain events like Auschwitz? How is killing 3,000,000 innocent children part of Gods plan? How is this Just? Events like these prove that he is cannot be at the same time JUST and Omnipresent. If he is Omnipresent and JUST, than that would make him a sick God as his vision of justice violates everything we stand for as a human race.
If God is Just , Then why am I (are we) still being punished for the Original Sin, something our Ancestors committed over 2000 years ago.
If God is Just, Then why is it that I am destined to receive the same sentence for looking at a woman lustfully as a serial killer who beheads and rapes victims. Clearly, this defeats every principle of Justice ever thought of on earth.
Finally, If God is the architect, omnipresent, knowing all our thoughts dreams and desires from birth, then he created me as I am knowing that I would be committing X sins during Y times.
So according to the Bible, He created me to sin just so he can cast me down below to the fiery depths of hell?
I hope you can answer these questions, Because they really have plagued me and frankly, have turned me into one of those lost Christians (I.E - I believe Jesus was a great figure who tried to teach us the importance of love, but I despise the Bible and Bible Thumping authority figures who claim absolute knowledge over Jesus' life)
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Post by xaria on Apr 10, 2009 17:54:59 GMT -5
...I'll do my best to make it worth the wait. on the subject of religion, you really wont. dont even try. |
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Post by Sikotik_Psyphi on Apr 10, 2009 18:07:23 GMT -5
Hi Kiwiandrew. You wouldn't happen to be any relation to a kiwiblue who tried to spam the old boards to death back in 07?
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Post by ironbite on Apr 10, 2009 18:38:13 GMT -5
I also look forward to conversing with you and finding out what it was that made you fall away. Have been and will continue to pray for you. Will be in touch soon. In love, KiwiAndrew. You can't really fall away from something you were never in to begin with. Ironbite-My dad's attempts notwithstanding of course. |
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Post by Admiral Lithp on Apr 12, 2009 2:12:40 GMT -5
About the First Post: I love how they always tell us "we don't know what Christianity is," then proceed to tell us exactly what we've heard a million times before. I don't suppose you'd be willing to give me the address, if you still have it? I'd really like to talk to him as a Poe, then reveal that I'm from FSTDT, & see what he says.
Edit: Nevermind, I didn't know he joined the forum.
About the Current Conversation: I actually have no idea what's going on right now. I refused to read 5 pages of probably mostly unrelated shit.
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Post by Redhunter on Apr 13, 2009 3:12:30 GMT -5
About the First Post: I love how they always tell us "we don't know what Christianity is," then proceed to tell us exactly what we've heard a million times before. I don't suppose you'd be willing to give me the address, if you still have it? I'd really like to talk to him as a Poe, then reveal that I'm from FSTDT, & see what he says.Edit: Nevermind, I didn't know he joined the forum. About the Current Conversation: I actually have no idea what's going on right now. I refused to read 5 pages of probably mostly unrelated shit.
So what did you hit the submit button for, attention? Because that was a completely pointless post. What... do you get charged internet access by the keystroke and didn't wanna waste 'em? |
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