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Post by Dragon Zachski on Jul 6, 2011 0:27:44 GMT -5
I didn't say it was. Who's putting words in people's mouths now? My point, however, is that I don't need you reminding me of this. And neither does anyone else. That is not your place. Well pardon me! So... who's place would you suggest it was? No one's.
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Post by Dragon Zachski on Jul 6, 2011 0:35:02 GMT -5
Here, let me give you some advice, LHM.
You want to bring awareness to the issue? Then bring awareness to the issue! Don't be sanctimonious about it, though, or you're gonna get people pissed at you.
If, on the 4th of July, you had simply posted about the event that happened, in a topic that said "Native Americans attacked by Racists" then guess what?
We would have reacted with shock and horror, we would have been in agreement, no argument (aside from you breaking the rule due to not knowing about it)
But no. Instead, you chose this. You essentially said "Yeah, while you Americans are celebrating the 4th of July, stuff is happening. You should feel bad!"
Remember, how you deliver a message is often as important, if not more than, the message that is being delivered.
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Post by Shane for Wax on Jul 6, 2011 0:58:20 GMT -5
Hey LHM, remember when I accused you of appointing yourself our moral police? Yeah. You basically gave me a citation for it. A brand new one. Way to go, mate. Way to go.
Yes, there's corruption and racism and everything else. But the way you deliver your message isn't doing your cause any favors. At fucking all. It's like vandalizing a billboard to point out the corruption in the mayor's office. It makes you look like an immature brat who can't put two brain cells together to make a case for his cause. Instead he does the opposite and makes himself look like a jackass to boot.
If you had given your thread a better title than we wouldn't have had this 8 page discussion about why what you did was wrong. Well except the part about you arguing over the rules and such. That probably still would have happened.
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Post by dasfuchs on Jul 6, 2011 1:12:47 GMT -5
No...you didn't. You copy/pasted the entire article. And gave the source, and put it in a quote box. That was an accident Au contrare, the thread title... en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarcasm because Americans have been known to act as though their collective effluent doesn't stink, that they are better than other people, and a shining beacon unto others. Yet stuff like this still happens. Just a little sic transit gloria mundi reminder. Oh look, Mr. "Morally upstanding twit" is lecturing everyone else on how to be morally upstanding
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Post by dasfuchs on Jul 6, 2011 1:18:39 GMT -5
Can you think of a better time to confront people over their jingoistic sense of superiority? It might have worked better if... IT HAD OCCURRED ON THE FOURTH OF JULY. You nitwit. ETA: I don't really see any Americans posting shit from Australia and going 'har har'. In that defense, months ago, if not a year, I was poking fun at Australia buying tanks from the US and then not having a way to ship them, so they had to buy some boats too, but that was a poke in good fun, not being an obtuse dickhead
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Post by lighthorseman on Jul 6, 2011 2:15:42 GMT -5
Hey LHM, remember when I accused you of appointing yourself our moral police? Yeah. You basically gave me a citation for it. A brand new one. Way to go, mate. Way to go. I thought WMDkitty was the one with the drug problem? I must have been mistaken. Well I TRIED to give the thread a different title, but Oriet wouldn't let me start over.
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Post by lighthorseman on Jul 6, 2011 2:16:47 GMT -5
It might have worked better if... IT HAD OCCURRED ON THE FOURTH OF JULY. You nitwit. ETA: I don't really see any Americans posting shit from Australia and going 'har har'. In that defense, months ago, if not a year, I was poking fun at Australia buying tanks from the US and then not having a way to ship them, so they had to buy some boats too, but that was a poke in good fun, not being an obtuse dickhead Not to mention all the Americans falling overthemselves to liken the Australian military to that of Monaco. But who's counting?
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Post by Dragon Zachski on Jul 6, 2011 2:49:22 GMT -5
Hey LHM, remember when I accused you of appointing yourself our moral police? Yeah. You basically gave me a citation for it. A brand new one. Way to go, mate. Way to go. I thought WMDkitty was the one with the drug problem? I must have been mistaken. Well I TRIED to give the thread a different title, but Oriet wouldn't let me start over. So then, why'd you defend your current thread title? -_- If you know it was wrong, then apologize for it. Also, not sure what WMDKitty's 'drug problem' has to do with you appointing yourself our moral police.
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Post by Shane for Wax on Jul 6, 2011 2:55:54 GMT -5
You said: I thought WMDkitty was the one with the drug problem? I must have been mistaken. Here's the evidence of what I said: If you think the 4th of July is the day to forget/ignore all of the problems extant in your country, that is most certainly your prerogative. I didn't say it was. Who's putting words in people's mouths now? My point, however, is that I don't need you reminding me of this. And neither does anyone else. That is not your place. Well pardon me! So... who's place would you suggest it was? Sorry but you admitted to trying to be the moral police of us all. If not just the board but the entire US. Unless you're going to tell me it was something else. But that's your prerogative. You may not be admitting to it point blank but it is still there. Aww you poor baby. You tried to change the thread title after the damage was done. After everyone started railing against you for it. It doesn't work that way. Just like editing multiple posts of yours with cute little pictures doesn't make you look any better or your point any clearer. But you're just not going to get it. It's all of us with the problem, obviously. Not you. Never you. You're not wrong. At all. Never. We are not small children. We can think for ourselves and it isn't just some collective that causes us to be against you. Each of us independently view you as someone who is wrong. I can't help that your narcissism prevents you from seeing yourself as wrong. I have been wrong multiple times in the past few days about things, or simply have done a poor job of writing my thoughts clearly. That's my fault. Your fault lies in the holier than thou attitude that leaves a sour taste in everyone else's mouths. Pointing things out is one thing, lording it over people who can't do much about it and being a sanctimonious dickhead is another.
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Post by lighthorseman on Jul 6, 2011 3:32:54 GMT -5
So then, why'd you defend your current thread title? -_- If you know it was wrong, then apologize for it. It wasn't "wrong". It was intended to be confronting. It achieves that aim. There is nothing to apologise for. Dude, the only people talking about anyone appointing me "moral police" are you and shane. I certainly never said anything of the sort. So... one of you is is halucinating something that never happened (hence discussion of drug problems) and the other is mindlessly following the other's lead. I'll let you work out which is which.
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Post by lighthorseman on Jul 6, 2011 3:35:39 GMT -5
You said: I thought WMDkitty was the one with the drug problem? I must have been mistaken. Here's the evidence of what I said: Well pardon me! So... who's place would you suggest it was? Bullshit. Backpedalling now? I suppose thats somehow my fault too? Aww you poor baby. You tried to change the thread title after the damage was done. After everyone started railing against you for it. It doesn't work that way. Just like editing multiple posts of yours with cute little pictures doesn't make you look any better or your point any clearer. But you're just not going to get it. It's all of us with the problem, obviously. Not you. Never you. You're not wrong. At all. Never. We are not small children. We can think for ourselves and it isn't just some collective that causes us to be against you. Each of us independently view you as someone who is wrong. I can't help that your narcissism prevents you from seeing yourself as wrong. I have been wrong multiple times in the past few days about things, or simply have done a poor job of writing my thoughts clearly. That's my fault. Your fault lies in the holier than thou attitude that leaves a sour taste in everyone else's mouths. Pointing things out is one thing, lording it over people who can't do much about it and being a sanctimonious dickhead is another. [/quote]So, shooting the messenger. Got it. ETA: Look, either you have a problem with the way I initially formatted the thread, in which case you should be happy I attempted to change it to suit your prefered format, or you can whine about me editing stuff. Don't do both.
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Post by Dragon Zachski on Jul 6, 2011 3:41:35 GMT -5
]It wasn't "wrong". It was intended to be confronting. It achieves that aim. There is nothing to apologise for. Bullshit. Bullshit.
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Post by lighthorseman on Jul 6, 2011 3:46:22 GMT -5
]It wasn't "wrong". It was intended to be confronting. It achieves that aim. There is nothing to apologise for. Bullshit. What, specifically, is it about the thread title that has put quite so much sand in your vagina? Perhaps if you explain what about it upsets you so much, I will understand your umbrage, and apologise? Fine... cite me saying I consider myself to be the "moral police". Or apologise and retract.
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Post by RavynousHunter on Jul 6, 2011 4:16:54 GMT -5
So far, Miles is the only "right" one here.
Here's an idea, everyone, and I do mean everyone (from the mods on down), just leave this thing to die. Lighty's being obtuse, and all you're going to do is feed him. Let it simmer down, or its going to boil over and someone's probably going to get the digital hell smacked out of em.
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Post by lighthorseman on Jul 6, 2011 4:21:49 GMT -5
So far, Miles is the only "right" one here. Here's an idea, everyone, and I do mean everyone (from the mods on down), just leave this thing to die. Lighty's being obtuse, and all you're going to do is feed him. Let it simmer down, or its going to boil over and someone's probably going to get the digital hell smacked out of em. I'm really not trying to be obtuse.
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