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Post by linuxianilmurov on Jul 15, 2011 17:36:41 GMT -5
Just a place for people to post their thoughts as well as news about this Syrian Uprising.http://english.aljazeera.net/news/middleeast/2011/07/201171513414896895.html
More protests are happening today, as is every Friday.
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Post by ironbite on Jul 15, 2011 17:38:16 GMT -5
Fixed for proboards not linking the url. Ironbite-stupid proboards |
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Post by ironbite on Jul 15, 2011 17:39:16 GMT -5
Huh...been going on for a couple of months. Entire region seems to be getting a massive overhaul.
Ironbite-and your thoughts on the subject there sweetheart?
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Post by linuxianilmurov on Jul 15, 2011 17:49:18 GMT -5
Well, It is important to note the sectarian dimensions of it. Most of the protesters are Sunni Arabs, Kurds aren't really taking part in this revolt, the president and much of the ruling regime are Alawites, a minority sect that most Sunnis consider heretical. It could be argued that most of this revolt is just more Sectarianism. One protester had a banner that said Alawites to the grave and Christians to Beirut, a chilling indication of what will happen if the regime falls. It's not the simple black and white, freedom fighters vs dictator as it is often portrayed.
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Post by linuxianilmurov on Jul 17, 2011 8:44:04 GMT -5
No other opinions on it?
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Post by Mlle Antéchrist on Jul 17, 2011 11:02:03 GMT -5
I don't think one can paint any of these revolts with a single brush. Realistically, the various rebels/revolters/protesters/etc. in each country are probably made up of a number of smaller groups -- some with positive goals, some with questionable ideologies, and some who are just fed up citizens looking for some kind of change -- united by the one big thing they have in common: Wanting to get rid of the ruling powers.
You're correct about it not being black and white. It rarely is.
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Post by linuxianilmurov on Jul 17, 2011 12:40:06 GMT -5
I do think it's better that Assad crush the revolt, for everybody the US, Syria, even Israel.
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Post by Armand Tanzarian on Jul 17, 2011 13:03:27 GMT -5
Its really difficult to say anything on such a complicated issue. I agree, there's more to this than black and white. That said why did you say its better for Assad to crush the revolt, especially with the heavy hand he's dealt? You don't think Assad's own actions are as sectarian as the protesters? A regime where there is a clear division between the rulers and the people, as ahs been the case with many modern Mideast nations, cannot stand for very long. Often they're only propped up with violence and cult of personality, and we all know how sustainable that can be.
Whether your stance on the protesters are positive or not, I think we'll see Assad's regime under severe attack from now on. He may survive in reduced form if and when the revolution runs out of steam, but the country will never project the power and influence it did before this. Assad will never be as powerful as he was ever again and I think its better for him to realize this now, in your words, "for everybody the US, Syria, even Israel."
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Post by Yla on Jul 17, 2011 14:27:16 GMT -5
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Post by linuxianilmurov on Jul 17, 2011 17:38:01 GMT -5
Under that Assads, Syria has been stable for about 40 years except for a brief revolt in the '80s much the current Assad's father dealt with rather nicely. I think a stable Syria ruled a secular regime is better than one that is either controlled by the Muslim Brotherhood or will explode into sectarian strife, a la Iraq. Before the Assads, there were coups every other week or so.
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Post by Dragon Zachski on Jul 17, 2011 17:40:25 GMT -5
Protip:
Killing your own citizens because of protests is NOT good leadership, it is in fact the opposite.
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Post by ironbite on Jul 17, 2011 17:46:46 GMT -5
Nother Protip:
Advocating genocide just because it'll keep the status quo on a board filled with a wide variety of the political spectrum most of which advocate a more liberal bent is also not a good idea.
Ironbite-really hurts your credability.
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Post by Yla on Jul 17, 2011 17:50:06 GMT -5
Under that Assads, Syria has been stable for about 40 years except for a brief revolt in the '80s much the current Assad's father dealt with rather nicely. I think a stable Syria ruled a secular regime is better than one that is either controlled by the Muslim Brotherhood or will explode into sectarian strife, a la Iraq. Before the Assads, there were coups every other week or so. Repeating my question: Are you implying the behaviour of Syrian security forces as in the testimonies quoted above (and again below) is appropriate and/or justified? Yes or no? |
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Post by linuxianilmurov on Jul 17, 2011 18:12:01 GMT -5
First of all, whether is justified or not has nothing to do with wanting Assad to stay. It's a non issue, because it really doesn't matter if it's justified or not. Keep in mind the West probably wouldn't react to much differently from mass street protest that have happened in Syria if they happened here, see Kent State.
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Post by ironbite on Jul 17, 2011 18:14:34 GMT -5
Congrats on not actually answering the question.
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