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Post by Mlle Antéchrist on Jul 25, 2011 10:18:22 GMT -5
Full set of the dress-up pics. What's with the skinhead hazmat suit?
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Post by lighthorseman on Jul 25, 2011 10:25:23 GMT -5
Full set of the dress-up pics. What's with the skinhead hazmat suit? Not just a HAZMAT suit, a HAZMAT suit which leaves the hands exposed! That's priceless!
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Post by lighthorseman on Jul 25, 2011 10:26:55 GMT -5
Oh, good lord, please don't let him be a mason, we will never, EVER hear the end of it from the raptards and other CTSTDT denizens. Actually he is a Mason. Well, he was till after the shooting. I thought once a mason, always a mason. I didn't realise masons can be de-frocked.
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Post by Mlle Antéchrist on Jul 25, 2011 10:32:25 GMT -5
Yeah, I had a good laugh at the lack of gloves, especially with the amount of detail put into the costumes.
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Post by devilschaplain2 on Jul 25, 2011 11:18:56 GMT -5
Actually he is a Mason. Well, he was till after the shooting. I thought once a mason, always a mason. I didn't realise masons can be de-frocked. Here's what the Norwegian Order of Freemasons said on their website: "I am appalled by the horrible atrocity that was committed in the government district and at the Utøya island, says the Sovereign Grand Master of the Norwegian Order of Freemasons, Ivar A. Skar. We are filled with mourning and compassion for those who have been affected and their relatives. It has appeared in the media that the accused has been a member of the Norwegian Order of Freemasons. He has now been excluded - the exclusion immediately effective. The exclusion reflects that the acts he is accused of having carried out, and the values that appear to have motivated them, are completely incompatible with what we stand for as an Order. We build our activity on Christian and humanistic values and want our members to contribute to the promotion of charity, peace and goodness among all people. The police will of course get all the help and information we can give to contribute to the investigation." www.frimurer.no/
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Post by Her3tiK on Jul 25, 2011 14:02:47 GMT -5
According to Right Wing Watch, it would appear that Byran Fischer, US radio host and Christian nutjob, agrees with Breivik’s manifesto, though he claims to disagree with the violence. The crazies over here agree with a mass murderer. Does this mean we can compare them fairly now?
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Post by devilschaplain2 on Jul 25, 2011 14:25:39 GMT -5
According to Right Wing Watch, it would appear that Byran Fischer, US radio host and Christian nutjob, agrees with Breivik’s manifesto, though he claims to disagree with the violence. The crazies over here agree with a mass murderer. Does this mean we can compare them fairly now? Is it sad that nothing he says surprises me anymore?
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Post by gyeonghwa on Jul 25, 2011 14:35:20 GMT -5
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Post by driewerf on Jul 25, 2011 14:58:15 GMT -5
Because there are myriad of factors that influence how people act and their actions. Many of those factors are environmental and can be changed. You can't honestly believe that you can ever make, say, Jeffery Dahmer or "Whitey" Bulger a productive member of society. Some people in this world are just plain shitbags who get off on cruelty and bullying. While I certainly don't wish to see them tortured or given inhumane conditions, I also don't want them living in a place most college students would give their left arm to have. But it was very often their environment that made them moster sto start with.
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Post by lighthorseman on Jul 25, 2011 16:19:57 GMT -5
You can't honestly believe that you can ever make, say, Jeffery Dahmer or "Whitey" Bulger a productive member of society. Some people in this world are just plain shitbags who get off on cruelty and bullying. While I certainly don't wish to see them tortured or given inhumane conditions, I also don't want them living in a place most college students would give their left arm to have. But it was very often their environment that made them moster sto start with. Quite. I know it's unpopular, but since most of the people who commit these sorts of crimes are demonstrably mentally ill, I don't believ e in punishing them for something that is, at least partly, beyond their control.
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Post by lighthorseman on Jul 25, 2011 16:23:15 GMT -5
The crazies over here agree with a mass murderer. Does this mean we can compare them fairly now? And... here we see the most obvious reason not to resort to violent extremism... This guy wrote 1500 pages worth of manifesto. The little of it I've read so far seems lucid and coherent. Yet no matter what he said, no matter how logical or otherwise compelling, any points he had to make that people may otherwise have been prepared to take notice of, will now be dismissed because of his crimes. I think if I generated 1500 pages worth of material, I'd like people to be able to approach it with a somewhat open mind.
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Post by Jedi Knight on Jul 25, 2011 17:02:56 GMT -5
Here in the middle of the collective grief, I am quite moved by, and very proud of my fellow Norwegians. The newspaper Verdens Gang reports that a German journalist wrote this in his newspaper: Also, I link to a picture series from tonight's memorial gathering. Most of the pictures are from Oslo, but there are also pictures from other major Norwegian cities. www.vg.no/bildespesial/spesial.php?id=8410&o=0&katId=-1I have been crying a little tonight.
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Post by gyeonghwa on Jul 25, 2011 17:16:08 GMT -5
Norway: Warming our hearts.
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Post by Jedi Knight on Jul 25, 2011 18:10:21 GMT -5
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Post by lighthorseman on Jul 25, 2011 18:13:18 GMT -5
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