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Post by schizophonic on May 2, 2009 22:22:46 GMT -5
Especially since it sounds like bullshit.
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Post by Lady Renae on May 2, 2009 22:24:43 GMT -5
Skyfire has anecdotes like I have exes.... yeesh...
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Post by devilschaplain2 on May 2, 2009 22:32:51 GMT -5
Oh please, that's completely wrong. Just look at Oncale v. Sundowner Offshore Services where the victims and perpetrator were all MEN.
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Post by devilschaplain2 on May 2, 2009 22:35:12 GMT -5
Wow, the "I heard from this one guy" defense, that's the lowest form of "evidence" out there....
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Post by schizophonic on May 2, 2009 23:30:26 GMT -5
Skyfire has anecdotes like I have exes.... yeesh... If you change exes to "psychotic exes" then you have me.
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Post by antichrist on May 3, 2009 0:02:39 GMT -5
Mormons in Utah believe in seperation of church and state which is why they have stayed out of the political arena. Prop 8 was different because it would have allowed gays to marry which is wrong in the eyes of the lord If that were remotely true they'd be fighting against rights for athiests and adulterers. Yet this is the only sin any of these 'religious' groups ever seem to spend a dollar or waste an hour protesting. Well Mormons don't seem to have a problem with Serial marriage for men. So civil divorces aren't a big deal. Women I believe have to get permission from their sealed husband and go through some sort of unsealing ceremony (I would bow to someone who understands this better). But most ex-wives, that I've met, seem to get along with the current wife. I guess they realize they're stuck together for time and eternity. I assume the ones who can't stand this relationship either move far away, or leave the church. Adultery's the woman's fault, obviously she wasn't performing her wifely duties, so the guy gets #2 for eternity. The Church does spend a lot of time and money on pushing abstinence and marriage on the youth within their church. I'm not sure how much money goes outside for such projects.
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Post by antichrist on May 3, 2009 0:05:36 GMT -5
Ever see animal rights activists harass the Hell's Angels for wearing leather? It's pretty much the same deal here. They need an enemy to unify themselves but lack the courage to challenge an opponent that might be capable of winning. Come to think of it, why does PETA spend so much time hating on people who wear fur and never say a word about leather, which is far more commonplace? Because all their celebrity porn stars wear leather. Hell Pamela Anderson auctioned off her Dodge Viper, with leather seats, and donated the cash to PETA. But they're not going to turn down the cash or publicity for something as silly as ethics, now are they.
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Post by antichrist on May 3, 2009 0:13:54 GMT -5
Ah. Got it. I yield to persons more experienced (and versed in important terminology) than myself. The anti-discrimination laws come up quite frequently in business classes, such that the basic laws are pretty well drilled into the average business student by the time they've gotten their bachelor's. I myself had to go through the relevant laws again this semester as I just got through with a Business Law course. As it is, homosexuality is such a gray area under the law that it's actually difficult to do sexual harassment claims if the harasser is of the same gender as the victim because the courts don't always recognize it. The prof actually brought up an incident in which a bisexual manager discovered that a husband / wife pair was working in his section and tried to proposition both because he wanted into a threesome; the spouses tried to bring a sexual harassment suit against him, but the court dropped it because the manager was going after both of them and so there wasn't any law or precedent in regards to homosexual conduct and they apparently didn't want to be the first court to make any. I would really ask for my money back from that school, you will be laughed out of any board room I can think of with that kind of bullshit. Sexual harassment doesn't even require a proposition. It can be as simple as two guy's telling crude blonde jokes and ANOTHER MAN in the office being offended by it. Since you love stories so much (or maybe it's only your own stories). An old boss of mine was warned. What had happened was he was talking to a coworker that he was very friendly with. Our department was very relaxed and we told crude jokes all the time. The coworker was wearing a sweater that had puff balls all over it, my manager started picking at them and THE COWORKER said, "quit playing with my nipples" It was a joke, no harm was done. Both were warned because somebody in HR overheard the comment and our entire department was sent for sexual harassment training. Edit: Now that I think about it, King of the Hill did a pretty good show about sexual harassment in the workplace. I'm not sure which episode it was on, but it showed how sexual harassment can make a workplace intolerable AND NOBODY IN THE SHOW PROPOSITIONED ANYONE it was just stupid frat boy shit. Since the show is supposedly based in Texas, maybe you'll be able to understand it. For fucks sakes, if a cartoon can get sexual harassment right, but your professor can't, switch schools.
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Post by ironbite on May 3, 2009 0:19:00 GMT -5
Sky, I'm gonna say it one time so please read this.
STOP...TELLING...UNVERIFIABLE...STORIES! Either give us some citations or shut the hell up.
Ironbite-thank you.
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Post by Caitshidhe on May 3, 2009 0:28:24 GMT -5
Wow, that's crazy shit, there. There has GOT to be some happy medium between ignoring blatant and harmful sexual harassment (unwanted advances, groping, propositioning) and going apeshit over what amounts to essentially NOTHING. At my last job--the one where I was fired for acting like an adult--I got into trouble for accidentally and unknowingly touching a male coworker (I'm a woman) on the butt. I was trying to get past him and I went to nudge him on the back, but he was seven foot tall and I'm only five foot and I didn't expect his ass to be THAT HIGH UP. He wasn't even bothered by it, he just turned around really surprised/amused and asked, "Did you just touch my ass?"
Yeah. I was warned for that. >.<
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Post by Vene on May 3, 2009 0:40:12 GMT -5
Cait, not to derail the thread or anything, but I would love for you to touch my ass.
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Post by devilschaplain2 on May 3, 2009 0:46:32 GMT -5
Cait, not to derail the thread or anything, but I would love for you to touch my ass. I assume you're talking to me
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Post by Caitshidhe on May 3, 2009 0:46:59 GMT -5
Of course you would, dear. But then it wouldn't be sexual harassment! It'd be foreplay.
I don't even think it was sexual harassment when I did it. It was an accident. I didn't realize I'd done it, and I apologized, and that SHOULD have been it. But no, it wasn't. *sigh*
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Post by devilschaplain2 on May 3, 2009 1:03:42 GMT -5
Of course you would, dear. But then it wouldn't be sexual harassment! It'd be foreplay. I don't even think it was sexual harassment when I did it. It was an accident. I didn't realize I'd done it, and I apologized, and that SHOULD have been it. But no, it wasn't. *sigh* Must......not..........sexually.........harass..... *gives in* If I said you had a beautiful body would you hold it against me?! Fuck, I did that again!
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Post by Caitshidhe on May 3, 2009 1:13:39 GMT -5
Of course you would, dear. But then it wouldn't be sexual harassment! It'd be foreplay. I don't even think it was sexual harassment when I did it. It was an accident. I didn't realize I'd done it, and I apologized, and that SHOULD have been it. But no, it wasn't. *sigh* Must......not..........sexually.........harass..... *gives in* If I said you had a beautiful body would you hold it against me?! Fuck, I did that again! Awe, that's okay, DC. I don't mind at all, you guys can perv on me all you like. This is FSTDT. If we didn't sexually harass each other, half of the board would be empty.
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